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by theherodjl
Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So About 'Majuub'...?
Replies: 10
Views: 965

Re: So About 'Majuub'...?

It's just an opinion too that Super 17 was superior to Goku prior to absorbing his Ki attacks, when SSJ Goku got serious he punched 17 halfway across the planet.
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Humans ever reach the power of DBZ?
Replies: 5
Views: 760

Re: Would Humans ever reach the power of DBZ?

Possibly, but unlikely not because they don't have the potential but because human beings Ki doesn't rise nearly to the extent that the Saiyans does. Goku's power shot up from 416 to well into the millions in a little over a year while Krillin training for several years and having his potential powe...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:57 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So About 'Majuub'...?
Replies: 10
Views: 965

Re: So About 'Majuub'...?

More or less I picture Super Saiyan 3 Goku (with tail) as about equal to Super Baby Vegeta 2, at his strongest, but unable to sustain the form. There's a time-skip in-between the Baby and Super #17 sagas. Given that Majuub doesn't even faze a suppressed Super #17 and Super Saiyan Goku smacks the la...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So About 'Majuub'...?
Replies: 10
Views: 965

So About 'Majuub'...?

In GT he is seen being comparable to SSJ3 Kid Goku but then fails to even make a dent against Super 17 who is somewhere weaker than SSJ Kid Goku, is this just another GT inconsistency? Or was there something I missed?
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:17 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Toriyama is terrible at writing intelligent characters.
Replies: 17
Views: 3840

Re: Toriyama is terrible at writing intelligent characters.

Even the characters ostensibly touted as perspicacious or as possessing genius-level intellect. Let's take Dr. Gero for instance: -Inexplicably places himself into an android body inferior to that of his other creations. If I'm not mistaken, he is a megalomaniac, correct? His ultimate aim is to est...
by theherodjl
Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:56 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Ki Really Be Measured In Numbers?
Replies: 2
Views: 384

Can Ki Really Be Measured In Numbers?

A Farmer With A Shotgun has a BP of 5 according to a scouter but how does it determine that the amount of battle power from said human will be 5? Do scouters perceive a Ki and quickly calculate them to the nearest whole number after finding an average or "X" by what the machines presume to be the cu...
by theherodjl
Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Much Power Did Vegeta Lose In The Saiyan Arc?
Replies: 6
Views: 749

How Much Power Did Vegeta Lose In The Saiyan Arc?

When Vegeta shot up to his full BP of 18,000 against Goku and then took various forms of damage after being hit by the KKx3 as well as generating a mini-blutz moon, how much power did he drop? Also after taking some damage while in Oozaru and getting his tail cut off, where did Vegeta stand then? Fo...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Would Beerus Be Surprised That Someone Defeated Freeza?
Replies: 7
Views: 2270

Why Would Beerus Be Surprised That Someone Defeated Freeza?

Whis has the ability to look for anyone or anything in the universe with his staff and gain information on them, Beerus probably relies on this due to being somewhat informed about the planets or stars he visits and destroy. However, is Beerus really so uninformed about other beings in the universe ...
by theherodjl
Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:40 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Physical Strength In DB
Replies: 16
Views: 1636

Re: Physical Strength In DB

Did I deny that? No, but it seems odd to call our specific fandom out on it, as if it's something we're known for doing above any other "power fantasy" genre. He didn't, you're stating that. The fact is that this low-end feat is pretty quick to be dismissed because of unproven statements supposedly...
by theherodjl
Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:37 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Physical Strength In DB
Replies: 16
Views: 1636

Re: Physical Strength In DB

Goku and Beerus in the DBS manga chapter 4 threatened to destroy the entire universe with just thier physical blows At this point I could care less about how much they lift Did they really? Because I know that Beerus is at least a star buster with his massive Ki blasts but possessing physical blows...
by theherodjl
Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Physical Strength In DB
Replies: 16
Views: 1636

Re: Physical Strength In DB

Goku and Beerus in the DBS manga chapter 4 threatened to destroy the entire universe with just thier physical blows At this point I could care less about how much they lift Did they really? Because I know that Beerus is at least a star buster with his massive Ki blasts but possessing physical blows...
by theherodjl
Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Physical Strength In DB
Replies: 16
Views: 1636

Physical Strength In DB

Yeah, Goku struggled to lift 40 tons in base despite the fact that when he was a kid he could push a boulder that weighed a great deal more than 40 tons but is it necessarily an inconsistency? We know that whenever Goku, Vegeta, or even Yamcha(in filler scenes) wanted to boost their battle powers th...
by theherodjl
Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!
Replies: 131
Views: 6846

Re: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!

That's fine and dandy but just coming in, dropping a list and walking out isn't discussion. You have a point? Fine. Discuss it. Dropping a list isn't discussion (Which is what these forums are for.) It's just a list...cool. What am I supposed to take from it? That you think X character can bust Y t...
by theherodjl
Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Levels & Effort
Replies: 5
Views: 607

Re: Power Levels & Effort

Interesting, seems like courage could be a factor and might explain why Cui vs Vegeta's fight with the exact same numbers of Goku vs Vegeta's fight ended up with different outcomes. I also imagine it could be why characters who are worlds weaker than others manage to survive being attacked by such s...
by theherodjl
Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Power Levels & Effort
Replies: 5
Views: 607

Power Levels & Effort

More power levels discussion, huzzah. But on a more serious note, what do you suppose counts as an actual 'advantage' as far as power levels go? We KNOW that the numbers are down in both the manga and Daiz, I don't have to repeat that. There is no universal agreement on what exact percentage will de...
by theherodjl
Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!
Replies: 131
Views: 6846

Re: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!

When I started this little thread I was wondering what the possible reason was for certain fans to set down rules that DBZ characters had to be these sorts of astral busters and then I ironically get this particular response. Hmm, if Beerus can destroy a Universe that put's him around Galactus level...
by theherodjl
Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!
Replies: 131
Views: 6846

Re: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!

Akira Toriyama even as of writing Beerus and Golden Freeza, seems to believe that planet busting is really as far as they should go just easier each time they power up. No Whis stated Beerus can destroy an entire solar system in an instant in BoG. He also stated that Beerus destroyed several stars ...
by theherodjl
Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!
Replies: 131
Views: 6846

Re: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!

What does "busting" even mean? I've always been a little vague on that. We get statements like "Beerus might destroy the entire universe!" and some people seem to automatically take that to mean Beerus can destroy the universe with one big ki blast or something along those lines, though that's only...
by theherodjl
Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!
Replies: 131
Views: 6846

DB Characters Can Bust *insert celestial object here*!

Why do you suppose that certain fans of DB have to absolutely speculate that as the characters get stronger, they then begin to reach levels of busting objects as large as stars, solar systems, galaxies, or even a whole universe? Akira Toriyama even as of writing Beerus and Golden Freeza, seems to b...
by theherodjl
Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku vs. Superman
Replies: 29
Views: 2788

Re: Goku vs. Superman

This is what me & my friends put together on the topic: http://www.vizzed.com/boards/thread.php?id=88363&ref=57422 It would be better if you actually posted something from there on here rather than just put a link to it. Why bother making another post when there is already this one on the topic? Yo...