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by theherodjl
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Is Zeno Even King Of Everything?
Replies: 20
Views: 465

Re: Why Is Zeno Even King Of Everything?

FoolsGil wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:51 pm
lol, sure why not. :D
:lol: Its technically not wrong. The guides do confirm that Toriyama is a character who does exist in DB's reality and was supposedly the undisputed king so...who knows?
by theherodjl
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Oh, you're talking about the last fight. I think there's at least two ways to see that fight: 1 - Jiren was really weakened. 2 - Base Goku was still very strong. 1. That means Jiren drops all the way down in power to somewhere around DBZ's Namek arc if DBS Goku & Vegeta's bases aren't much higher t...
by theherodjl
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Is Zeno Even King Of Everything?
Replies: 20
Views: 465

Re: Why Is Zeno Even King Of Everything?

FoolsGil wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:45 pm
The Nanny's kids. It doesn't matter, point is Zeno is likely filling in for the one true king of everything
...Akira Toriyama?
by theherodjl
Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:02 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Is Zeno Even King Of Everything?
Replies: 20
Views: 465

Re: Why Is Zeno Even King Of Everything?

At this moment, he only seems to be the king of destruction, not of creation. Zeno has the ability to destroy anything, where as Zalama seems to have the ability to create and restore (and even bring back people from erasure). Only the Super Dragon Balls, which were created by Zalama, seem to be ab...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:02 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Is Zeno Even King Of Everything?
Replies: 20
Views: 465

Why Is Zeno Even King Of Everything?

...when he doesn't really care about it? Zeno destroys entire universes if he's angry and will destroy them all with little to no hesitation. There's no one as powerful as Zeno capable of strongarming him into doing his job so what exactly is the little, all-powerful imp's motivation for humoring be...
by theherodjl
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus's Attitude Towards Potential Destroyers.
Replies: 32
Views: 2058

Re: Beerus's Attitude Towards Potential Destroyers.

Your right. I agree Beerus isn't the best person out there. But I don't hate him like I do the Olympians. As per your other question I realized halfway in that I wanted to include other quotes but I needed to copy them first and I had to submit the post in order to do that. Honestly the best god mo...
by theherodjl
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Yeah, but what exactly does that even mean? That Base Goku should be stronger than some abstract level that we can’t agree about? It means Base Goku is just under enraged Jiren's power. Whether Jiren is at half-strength, one-quarter strength, or one-tenth strength, Base Goku holding on against any ...
by theherodjl
Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Beerus's Attitude Towards Potential Destroyers.
Replies: 32
Views: 2058

Re: Beerus's Attitude Towards Potential Destroyers.

He is a jerk I agree but he's better than the Olympian gods. Nah, DB's hierarchy is very much in the same vein as many other pantheons in terms of attitude. The Kaioshin suffer from ignorance, the Hakaishin suffer from lethargy, and the Angels & Zeno suffer from apathy. DB's Gods are dumb, lazy, an...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Jiren was weakened. You can’t have a good grasp of his power in that state. It doesn’t matter if Base Saiyans managed to survive his assault, Jiren is above SSBlue level in his peak condition. Only Goku Black has a strong base form. And the Saiyans were weakened too. Jiren managed to momentarily ra...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

SSJgogeto wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:19 pm
Unless Jiren was holding back.
Jiren was giving it his all. If his objective was to deliberately struggle against Boo arc Base Saiyans then Jiren would use 0.00000001% of his power but I seriously doubt he's one to be dramatic enough to do so.
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Saiyan Diet
Replies: 9
Views: 167

Re: Saiyan Diet

Hulk10 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:59 pm
I interpret Toriyama's statement as being that Saiyans will eat anything edible, regardless of whether or not they like it.
Isn't that what he said in the first place?
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

IMO Goku and Vegeta in their base forms are more or less in the same level of theirselves in the end of Buu saga, so no. However, in another topic there's apparently evidence about Goku (manga) being more powerful than Shin, so who knows. ...and yet Base Goku managed to hold on against Jiren(a guy ...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?
Replies: 11
Views: 2538

Re: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?

TL;DR: - Even without the ability to freely alter your power level, some ki amplification should come naturally from big "ultimate attacks." - Nappa's power was probably gradually rising as he fought Goku, letting his ultimate attack almost match Goku. - Goku's Kaio-Ken and Kamehameha techniques fu...
by theherodjl
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

No one can give you an accurate answer for this question, since base form doesn’t see relevance in the manga. So far, it seems Base Goku is weaker than Frost, so it depends on how strong do you think Frost is, which is also unclear. I'd like to point out that Base Goku & Vegeta in the manga were ma...
by theherodjl
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If it had been F Gohan that gone to the past, who would Goku have taken into ROSAT?
Replies: 8
Views: 332

Re: If it had been F Gohan that gone to the past, who would Goku have taken into ROSAT?

If Goku decided on his son from the future for the ROSAT, they'd probably have defeated Cell since Adult Gohan would have understood his role & training far better than his young counterpart and he already had a head start with knowing SSJ. Add in Future Gohan's matured body which would allow greate...
by theherodjl
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Oceanus Shenron is male or female?
Replies: 4
Views: 183

Re: Oceanus Shenron is male or female?

The Dragons are shapeshifters so whatever gender or form they appear as is simply what they've chosen to be. Its possible that the nature of the wishes the Dragons were born from influences their designs but since two Dragons are virtually identical despite being made from different wishes, this mig...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 13
Views: 369

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

Old Broly was insane. DBS Broly isn't insane. He's still insane, its just that he's not naturally homicidal or omnicidal like his classic counterpart was. Modern Broly has all the issues of growing up isolated without knowing how to properly form relationships with others, having to do what his dad...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

About Broly, I think what Koyama meant was that Broly, if not stopped by Goku, could have possibly grown as strong as he said. He was definitely not as strong as Koyama claimed him to be, in any movie. That is not fan belief, that was what was written, drawn and shown in the movies. A Cell arc batt...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

In my opinion it is. Remember how Yamcha and others effortlessly beat Ginyu Force in DBZ? Or how Pikkon (SSJ Goku level at best) trashed Cell? It would seem that SSJ Goku is stronger or at least comparable to SSJ2 Gohan. And there are some major power level differences between anime & manga in DBS....
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1349

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Copy-Vegeta arc was a filler and it has no place in manga, while Moro arc has (at least currently) no place in anime. If anime returns with Moro arc it might be different as well. I wouldn't consider all things from anime as facts when talking about manga, especially fillers. Also this is Super so ...