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by theherodjl
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Possible Applications of Spirit Control
Replies: 1
Views: 99

Re: Possible Applications of Spirit Control

No doubt the ability of transformation as well. Vegeta might be able to push himself onto a new form with total mastery of spirit control.
by theherodjl
Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:58 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
Replies: 55
Views: 1027

Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?

That still doesn't change the fact that Toei stated Hirudegarn was weaker than Janemba because SSJ3 Goku beat him. Yes, Hirudegarn got weaker due to his weakness. But "considerably" I doubt it very much. SSJ3 Gotenks was treated like trash by that Hirudegarn. And Gohan was trashed even more by Base...
by theherodjl
Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The name of DBS Sequel
Replies: 40
Views: 858

Re: The name of DBS Sequel

DB Super Duper.
by theherodjl
Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku loves food so much, he could get targeted through poisoning
Replies: 13
Views: 232

Re: Goku loves food so much, he could get targeted through poisoning

If a heart virus, suffocation, and the extreme temperatures of the Earth's core can kill Goku, I dont see why a poison specialized to harm a Saiyan wouldn't also be able to do the trick.
by theherodjl
Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
Replies: 55
Views: 1027

Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?

Actually, I don't think Hirudegarn is stronger than Bootenks just because of that. Ultimate Gohan was far weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks in Movie 13 as seen in the fight. SSJ3 Gotenks forced Hirudegarn to transform, while Ultiamte Gohan was trashed throughout (even SSJ2 Vegeta did better than him). Then ...
by theherodjl
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What exactly is Kibito?
Replies: 11
Views: 295

Re: What exactly is Kibito?

The Daizenshuu simply refers to Kibito as "an old-looking man" and that he is Shin's attendant. If I had to guess, Kibito's neither a Kaioshin or a Kaio but a magically-modified member of one of the many humanoid species that exists in U7.
by theherodjl
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
Replies: 55
Views: 1027

Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?

My perspective is that we should go off of Buuhan's expectations. Boohan's estimations for Goku & Vegeta's fusion was wildly inaccurate though. As seen in the anime, even Base Vegetto was stronger than Boohan. In M12, SSJ Gogeta pretty easily overpowered & destroyed Janemba, a Boohan-tier foe. In D...
by theherodjl
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:15 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Should Freeza have never been revived in Super?
Replies: 45
Views: 863

Re: Should Freeza have never been revived in Super?

He definitely needed a comeback since Freeza was pretty much a joke the minute he got diced by Trunks. Freeza then made sporadic appearances in the anime & movies, most or even all of his scenes depicting him in a humorous light. ROF definitely returned Freeza to form as a genuine threat and it has ...
by theherodjl
Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:52 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Theatrical battle between Golden Oozaru Goten and Great Saiyaman
Replies: 7
Views: 204

Re: Golden oozaru goten Vs Great saiyaman

Gohan would get wrecked if this was at the beginning of the Boo arc. Goten was already around the same tier of strength as Gohan at that point so Goten going Oozaru on top would probably be above even Vegeta in raw power. The Z Senshi would have to neutralize the tail or take out the moon to stop Go...
by theherodjl
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?
Replies: 45
Views: 975

Re: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?

This is probably just a narrative inconsistency, but the narrative sometimes portrayed Omen as not being that powerful. Only it just makes Goku's reactions and instincts far sharper. Kefla noted that Goku doesn't hit that hard while he was UIO. We can presume from this that she felt that he hit har...
by theherodjl
Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Asking Takao Koyama
Replies: 21
Views: 789

Re: Asking Takao Koyama

But Hirudegarn is stronger than Janemba Not at all. Janemba defeated Super Saiyan 3 Goku, while Super Saiyan 3 Goku was able to defeat Hirudegarn in the end. That and other things. Such as Toei's old filmsite stating that Janemba was more powerful than Hirudegarn. The phantom majin Hildegarn is a f...
by theherodjl
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What kind of a weirdo do you expect for a new boss?
Replies: 8
Views: 314

Re: What kind of a weirdo do you expect for a new boss?

Maybe a villain who develops an innocent obsession with a protagonist? Deliberately committing a few bad deeds to get the protagonist roused up enough to desire to fight because said-villain happens to find the company and any activities performed with the protagonist to be fun? Maybe Sun Wukong or ...
by theherodjl
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?
Replies: 45
Views: 975

Re: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?

I never liked the idea that UI is a huge boost in power, but rather absolutely perfect martial arts technique. This especially paired with the manga repeatedly letting Goku know powering up isn't the way to beat Jiren in ToP, as he simply can't reach Jiren's level in this situation. To me it makes ...
by theherodjl
Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Asking Takao Koyama
Replies: 21
Views: 789

Re: Asking Takao Koyama

I'm sorry...but is this for real? Did someone here at Kanzenshuu actually visit Takao Koyama's social media account and message him into reiterating something that he stated in a prior interview? And then post it on the forum, calling him a "Broly fanboy" in an implied-mocking tone? This is the kind...
by theherodjl
Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:34 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Roshi and Baba - the first sibling team of DB
Replies: 3
Views: 193

Re: Roshi and Baba - the first sibling team of DB

It's hard to believe Roshi and Baba are siblings, it's like it was written into the plot and then things just moved on from there. I'm pretty sure that at least 99.99% of DB's story is just written into the plot and that all things simply move on from there. Is Goku a monkey boy who is actually amo...
by theherodjl
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is the main reason Vegeta's fans are furious with DBS Chapter 61?
Replies: 10
Views: 598

Re: What is the main reason Vegeta's fans are furious with DBS Chapter 61?

You're forgetting about Vegeta's second technique, his ability to defuse fused characters. And Moro still has his magic, a secret technique or two that he has yet to show off, and full access to 7-3's ability. Moro probably touched Vegeta's neck prior to curbstomping him to the ground so its really...
by theherodjl
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is the main reason Vegeta's fans are furious with DBS Chapter 61?
Replies: 10
Views: 598

Re: What is the main reason Vegeta's fans are furious with DBS Chapter 61?

I'm disappointed that Vegeta's technique really didn't matter against Moro's copy & paste of his own power from 7-3. Its somewhat implied that Moro's power-up is now permanent and isn't reliant on the amount of life energy he had stolen before, meaning that Vegeta's technique will be useless in de-p...
by theherodjl
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:39 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Do you think Final Form Hirudegarn is just around Mystic Gohan's raw power?
Replies: 2
Views: 231

Re: Do you think Final Form Hirudegarn is just around Mystic Gohan's raw power?

Hirudegarn's power appears to fluctuate randomly so he's not always at his best but if his defeat of Ultimate Gohan is anything to go by, a full power Hirudegarn is at least as powerful as Bootenks or maybe even Boohan.
by theherodjl
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:32 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegito Mui would beat Whis.
Replies: 13
Views: 496

Re: Vegito Mui would beat Whis.

It depends on how much stronger Whis is than Beerus. If Whis is still only around the 50% difference from Beerus that Toriyama originally conceived of, SSJB Gogeta/Vegetto might even be enough to take on Whis in a matter of strength. However, if Whis is actually a massive degree of multiples stronge...
by theherodjl
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?
Replies: 40
Views: 1250

Re: Why was Broli's strongest form in DBS movie form called Full Power Super Saiyajin?

Gohan stopped Broly's momentum temporally when he flew at him and later 3 ssjs overpowered him. Gogeta is the strongest movie character before Beerus. Also it was stated in m11 Goku and Pikkon could handle Broly and Goku says Fat Janemba is the greatest ki he's ever sinced. Both Fat Buu and Broly w...