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by theherodjl
Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:08 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How Does Cell's Buff Form Compare To His Super Perfect Form?
Replies: 6
Views: 269

How Does Cell's Buff Form Compare To His Super Perfect Form?

Strictly in the category of strength? Is Cell boosting the size of his muscles + considerably growing in height & weight any stronger than his resurrected perfect form? As strong? Or actually weaker than it? Gohan felt like dodging Buff Cell's blows rather than tanking them so is that a clue to Buff...
by theherodjl
Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Goten/Trunks/Gotenks Have Been U7 Team Members If They Had God Ki?
Replies: 13
Views: 450

Would Goten/Trunks/Gotenks Have Been U7 Team Members If They Had God Ki?

Supposing Goten & Trunks obtained SSJG and/or SSJB right after the debacle with Zamasu came to a close, would Goku & Vegeta have allowed their sons to participate in the ToP with their vastly superior strength? They'd obviously still be childish and probably not have any new, significant techniques ...
by theherodjl
Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Implications Of Goku Knowing Everything From The Start?
Replies: 2
Views: 307

Implications Of Goku Knowing Everything From The Start?

I had a fanfic idea in which Post-ToP Goku is somehow sent all the way back to his child body from the first chapter of DB. Supposing something like this actually happened in-universe, would Goku use his knowledge of everything right after the ToP to change everything for the better and save so much...
by theherodjl
Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would it have been a better idea do a Civil War between the z-fighters?
Replies: 2
Views: 216

Re: Would it have been a better idea do a Civil War between the z-fighters?

If the Z Senshi lacked Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo then the debacle with Zamasu might go a bit better since Gohan would be the leader in the situation and would certainly take a more pragmatic approach in defeating Zamasu & Black rather than Goku & Vegeta's philosophy of handling opponents purely with...
by theherodjl
Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:32 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Filler Yamcha (Buu Saga) and Olibu are not Cell tier
Replies: 2
Views: 206

Re: Filler Yamcha (Buu Saga) and Olibu are not Cell tier

If I remember right, Tenshinhan & Yamcha were able to hold a Cell Jr in place to be struck by Piccolo so Yamcha did/does indeed have some strength to him. Yamcha may not have been able to contend with the hardest hitters of DBZ but he's not as absolutely weak/useless as he is perceived to be by a ce...
by theherodjl
Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: King Cold can transform
Replies: 59
Views: 3433

Re: King Cold can transform

Cold already was in his final form, wasn't he? Cold's strength was almost on par with his son's base level, he was huge which usually indicates a fighter's greater/greatest power, he didn't bother transforming or powering up against Trunks, and he was wearing his 'ruler' outfit which seems to me tha...
by theherodjl
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:35 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: *Can* Beerus Destroy Whis?
Replies: 13
Views: 454

Re: *Can* Beerus Destroy Whis?

I doubt that there's even a future Grand Priest, but that's another topic entirely. Sure, it isn't confirmed, But since they are the highest authority in the multiverse besides Zeno, I don't see why they shouldn't be. It's my headcanon, but I think it makes the most sense in the narrative. Regardle...
by theherodjl
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: *Can* Beerus Destroy Whis?
Replies: 13
Views: 454

Re: *Can* Beerus Destroy Whis?

He can't. Angels are immortal and the Hakai cannot destroy immortal beings. Even someone like Future Zamasu, who was much weaker than the Angels, could not be destroyed by Beerus. Also, we don't really know if Zeno can erase Angels. He probably can do that, because he is the King of All, but we've ...
by theherodjl
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:11 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: *Can* Beerus Destroy Whis?
Replies: 13
Views: 454

*Can* Beerus Destroy Whis?

IIRC, Beerus joked about destroying Whis back in the BOG film...but is it actually possible for Beerus' power of destruction to eradicate Whis though? Zeno's erasure ability can indisputedly make Angels vanish into nothingness so does that mean the power of destruction can do it as well?
by theherodjl
Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How much power do you think a saiyan loses after they become 80?
Replies: 7
Views: 227

Re: How much power do you think a saiyan loses after they become 80?

Who is to say that Saiyans lose power when they are elderly? Their bodies might be less sturdy and generally less energetic but Ki is not about the body, it is it's own power that happens to exist and be accessed within one's body. That's why Toriyama says that fighters have to train their Ki inste...
by theherodjl
Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If all the Hakaishin and Kaioshins coexisted in symbiosis?
Replies: 2
Views: 136

Re: If all the Hakaishin and Kaioshins coexisted in symbiosis?

The Kaioshin are too weak to defend themselves against certain threats like Majin Boo so the Hakaishin & Angel going dormant for a 'creation period' would put the universal order at even greater risk. This concept might help to explain where in the hell Beerus & Whis were for several decades but it ...
by theherodjl
Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:56 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How much power do you think a saiyan loses after they become 80?
Replies: 7
Views: 227

Re: How much power do you think a saiyan loses after they become 80?

Who is to say that Saiyans lose power when they are elderly? Their bodies might be less sturdy and generally less energetic but Ki is not about the body, it is it's own power that happens to exist and be accessed within one's body. That's why Toriyama says that fighters have to train their Ki instea...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Manga Question.
Replies: 7
Views: 255

Re: Manga Question.

I'm in the camp of FPSSJ being stronger than ordinary SSJ as well as SSJ Grades 2 & 3. I just don't believe that there is a definitive limit on any of their forms besides what they desire to place upon them. Trunks has demonstrated that a previous SSJ form can be improved to match a stronger one so ...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:51 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Some Questions About Beerus & Whis' Fusion.
Replies: 4
Views: 172

Re: Some Questions About Beerus & Whis' Fusion.

Despite being different varieties of fusion, Namekian and Potara both presented some interesting results concerning the statuses of the fused pairs. Kami's position wasn't inherited by Piccolo but then that was described more as an assimilation rather than being an outright merging of two separate ...
by theherodjl
Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Zenkai Power
Replies: 26
Views: 657

Re: Zenkai Power

DBS Goku & Vegeta have still come a long way power-wise so the Zenkai does evidently exist, its just that the consistency & effect of the Zenkai remains as vague as always.
by theherodjl
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:36 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Some Questions About Beerus & Whis' Fusion.
Replies: 4
Views: 172

Some Questions About Beerus & Whis' Fusion.

Beerus & Whis can evidently fuse as shown in DB Fusions so how exactly does it correlate to Shin? Is "Beeruswhis" considered a Hakaishin and therefore connected to a Kaioshin and susceptible to death if Shin dies? Or since the fusion is part Angel then would Beeruswhis be able to turn back time if S...
by theherodjl
Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:22 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If they had kept Vegeta dead?
Replies: 4
Views: 207

Re: If they had kept Vegeta dead?

If Beerus' order also includes Whis' ability to resurrect the dead himself then what happens from then on might go something like this. 1. Goku would destroy the unconscious, drifting Freeza to at least remove his threat once and for all. 2. Beerus might still be a downer and refuse the surviving Ea...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1743

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Hugo Boss wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:43 pm
Accomplish what? Goku didn’t accomplish nothing.
Preventing himself from being thrown off and then holding Jiren in place is an accomplishment.
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1743

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

It's difficult to reach any sort of consensus on this issue. Here's what I think: 1 - IMO Jiren's strength was fluctuating in the last fight. 2 - I'm from the team "Goku in ROF was using 'Saiyan Beyond God'", so I can't agree with you in this :D 1. Hardly. Jiren was narrowly fighting on par against...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1743

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

If Freeza had a good amount of ki left he would try to fight in his golden form. He used this form just for a quick assault, which means he was dramatically drained as well, as pretty much everyone post Ultra Instinct debut. On top of that, Jiren could have easily knocked out Goku as he did to Vege...