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by theherodjl
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Trust me. I love Jiren. As of now, I think Jiren with access to his LP power up. Is probably low angel tier by now. I think personally at that time, in eps109. Beerus was shook because he knew none of his guys were up to snuff against Jiren. He was cautiously optimistic before that point. He obviou...
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:22 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Beerus freaked out when Goku unleashed Kaio-ken x10 during the Universe 6 bout, but we all know how that turned out. I take his expression during the Tournament of Power as worry for his universe's chances of survival. It would have been one thing if the entire Universe 11 team collectively had God...
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

No, as I see it. I think he was worried about his team. Listen, we don’t know how strong Jiren was. Some stuff say he was above all gods. Some other stuff claim, he’s only stronger than belmond. Personally in that situation, I think Beerus was freaking out, because he knew his team at the time had ...
by theherodjl
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

We have no idea how strong Vegeta is right now. In the anime, he managed to defeat a God of Destruction level fighter, but couldn’t defeat Jiren, who is also at that level. Maybe even Jiren can’t defeat Beerus. How I see it as. I place these GoDs and angels in this category. GoD 10 8 6 4 2 0 0 mean...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Do you think we'll eventually get a new type of fusion introduced
Replies: 18
Views: 2423

Re: Do you think we'll eventually get a new type of fusion introduced

I'd like to see an improvement to fusion in which merging bodies is no longer necessary, all that would need to happen is two characters perform a dance or use an item with one another that temporarily shares their power & abilities(and magnifies them) between each other. Imagine seeing Goten & Trun...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

The issue rests on whether or not Jiren could beat Beerus. Vegeta wouldn't beat Jiren. Well, when Jiren unleashed a powerful wind current from his body, Beerus seemed to be crapping his pants a little at the idea that one person could have that much power and this is coming from a guy who knows a c...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:53 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:57 am
Toppo was holding back though, to avoid killing.
Yeah, to avoid killing or destroying. Toppo was giving it his all besides these two limitations. Freeza also gave it his all but made sure to miss the vitals of his opponents, it shouldn't be different for Toppo.
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:41 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

How much "plot ki" are we gracing him with? Although it is from the anime, SSJBE Vegeta demonstrated that he can not only cancel out energy of destruction but also overwhelm & deactivate a newly-formed Hakaishin by pushing his Ki to a very nearly-suicidal extent. Assuming Manga Vegeta was also draw...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So.. About Frieza training for four months.
Replies: 3
Views: 2556

Re: So.. About Frieza training for four months.

Freeza likely didn't increase his power by any significant amount on day one of his training, Freeza used 4 whole months to figure out how to properly increase his Ki to the best of his ability...so he wouldn't have just needed to train for a couple hours on Namek to suddenly equal SSJ Goku or surpa...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?
Replies: 12
Views: 4392

Re: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?

But Goku said the fight would take all day and was sweating pretty heavily after canceling out that blast. Spending the day fighting Nappa would cost him a lot of energy regardless. Just seems to me like Nappa was on the same level. That's exactly why Goku was shown stressed on panel, he was suppre...
by theherodjl
Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Since you're bringing up the Moro arc, I assume this focuses on the manga version, in which Vegeta seems to currently be stronger than non-UI Goku, so... No. Despite getting stronger since his previous fight with Beerus (right before the ToP) and managing to power up his SSB during the ToP itself, ...
by theherodjl
Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 5623

Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Since Vegeta has improved his strength between the ToP & Namek and is currently training to learn some special new techniques on Yardrat, do you suppose SSJBE Vegeta + whatever new abilities he gets from Yardrat would allow him to defeat Beerus in a simple fight(barring the use of energy of destruct...
by theherodjl
Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?
Replies: 12
Views: 4392

Re: Nappa & Vegeta final attacks power boost?

I think we shouldn't discount the notion of Goku simply conserving his energy. He was facing off against two opponents that were the strongest he had ever seen at that point so its not out of the question that Goku would hold back his power output to ensure he could keep fighting. Its only logical w...
by theherodjl
Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Did Goku Unintentionally Sabotage The Strength Gains Of The Z Senshi Against Cell?
Replies: 9
Views: 3311

Did Goku Unintentionally Sabotage The Strength Gains Of The Z Senshi Against Cell?

Even after another year in the ROSAT, Vegeta only managed to reach somewhere over half of FPSSJ Goku's strength despite knowing Goku's method of training and having several months to think & improve upon it. Why exactly is that? Did Goku unintentionally cut morale so much after his declaration that ...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Old Broly's Madness
Replies: 13
Views: 2381

Re: Old Broly's Madness

People can go insane for various reasons and since Saiyans have not demonstrated any significantly improved degree of physiological fortitude over humans, I'd say there's a good chance that any one of the reasons that can alter a human's mind could very well have done so for Broly.
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:05 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Super Perfect Cell Actually At Full Power?
Replies: 6
Views: 2338

Re: Was Super Perfect Cell Actually At Full Power?

Hugo Boss wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:30 am
Remember that he also had Freeza and Goku’s cells, so he doesn’t have that weakness.
If he has Freeza's cells then that means he can hold his full power for only 7-8 minutes. :D
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:40 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Was Super Perfect Cell Actually At Full Power?
Replies: 6
Views: 2338

Was Super Perfect Cell Actually At Full Power?

Cell demonstrates a few times that he is subject to Namekian regeneration's loss of Ki upon needing to re-acquire lost sections of his body so does that mean that SPC was not quite at full power when he engaged Gohan in the beam struggle? He did have to regenerate his entire body from his smallest p...
by theherodjl
Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:32 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta III Meets Trunks.
Replies: 4
Views: 2212

Re: Vegeta III Meets Trunks.

Maybe, maybe not. We don't know. Actually I don't think Vegeta has a specific reason for not seeking to revive any of them. I think its more something that he never considered. He abandoned the ideology of his youth because he came to care for others. He hasn't lost his Saiyan ideology, he is just ...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegeta III Meets Trunks.
Replies: 4
Views: 2212

Re: Vegeta III Meets Trunks.

I think Vegeta III would be rather proud to have a grandson who is a Super Saiyan. Especially given how proud he was of Vegeta when Vegeta was young. Yeah, I mean...sure? King Vegeta had great pride in his lineage and would be content to see both his son & grandson as SSJs if he had lived. However,...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is 'Ultimate' Still Representative Of Gohan's Final Form/State Or Can He Ascend Further?
Replies: 4
Views: 3359

Is 'Ultimate' Still Representative Of Gohan's Final Form/State Or Can He Ascend Further?

Will he always just be "Ultimate Gohan + whatever extra degree of power he happens to obtain?" or will 'Ultimate' become a thing of the past and then we'll have God Gohan or something like that?