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by Toxin45
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:28 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

I think a recurring cast of antagonists is fine, if handled well. However, I think it should become a rule of thumb, that with the exception of maybe Freeza, none of the villains that were obliterated and killed should be recurring characters. Characters like Hit and Jiren are probably the perfect ...
by Toxin45
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:23 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: New Goku's archenemy update poll
Replies: 13
Views: 1055

Re: New Goku's archenemy update poll

Goku would've come to Earth with or without Freeza. It was his mission to go there. Freeza and King Piccolo both had the same basic contributions to Goku, like killing his friends (Piccolo killed 3 friends to Freeza's 1, booyah lol) only difference is Goku's attitude and interactions with them, whi...
by Toxin45
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:22 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

sintzu wrote:
Toxin45 wrote:The old way doesn't always work out in modern times anymore dude.
Being original if done right will work. Look at BOG, it outright revived the entire DB franchise and is currently at hights it never knew before despite BOG being a new concept.
Then in super that concept got oversaturated
by Toxin45
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:21 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

On one hand, RoF is horrible and Freeza returning is a dumb decision. On the other hand, Freeza in the ToP was one of the best characters in the entire show. However, I think that's more to do with the fact that he was forced to team-up with Goku and friends. If they had brought Freeza back as an e...
by Toxin45
Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

Because frieza helps toei and toriyama make money duh. We're finally on the same page, Freeza is back for one reason and one reason only, to make easy $$$. Freeza is Goku's arch enemy because he is basically the one to have the biggest effect on his life. Freeza has come back way more times in clas...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: New Goku's archenemy update poll
Replies: 13
Views: 1055

Re: New Goku's archenemy update poll

Being dead or alive doesn't make an arch enemy status anymore or less valid. Plenty of arch enemies for characters in series are dead or have been dead. It's about them being the most formidable foe for the hero, which for me was and will be King Piccolo. Freeza WAS his most formidable foe in the s...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: New Goku's archenemy update poll
Replies: 13
Views: 1055

Re: New Goku's archenemy update poll

Freeza is a villain, but it's not Goku's most hated arch enemy to me anymore. They've worked together and have shown a lot less bitterness towards one another than, let's say, on Namek. King Piccolo and Piccolo Jr. are not entirely the same entity. He is the reincarnation, but they're different peo...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: New Goku's archenemy update poll
Replies: 13
Views: 1055

Re: New Goku's archenemy update poll

I would say Freeza, buuuuut after the events of the ToP, I'm gonna say King Piccolo. Nah Frieza is still a villain and King piccolo is reborn into his son piccolo jr who is a good guy now so Frieza is still a bad guy dude. Also King piccolo is dead now and reborn as a good guy now inside his son te...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: New Goku's archenemy update poll
Replies: 13
Views: 1055

Re: New Goku's archenemy update poll

I would say Freeza, buuuuut after the events of the ToP, I'm gonna say King Piccolo. Nah Frieza is still a villain and King piccolo is reborn into his son piccolo jr who is a good guy now so Frieza is still a bad guy dude. Also King piccolo is dead now and reborn as a good guy now inside his son te...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

sintzu wrote:
Toxin45 wrote:Your way isn't happening.
My way requires time, effort and creativity so of course it won't happen, Why do that when they have the Saiyan/Freeza safe space to fall back on.
Because frieza helps toei and toriyama make money duh.
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

I stand by the opinion that reintroducing Freeza back in the RoF film was a terrible idea in general. Making him SSB-level in four months completely undermined the original premise of him being afraid of Saiyans growing stronger in battle which could lead to him being overthrown. Not to mention Gol...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

My whole concern has always been if a character is written well and has a purpose for returning. When that’s done, you can have a great storyline but written well and having purpose mean different things to different people. I personally think there was too big a gap between Freeza being killed by ...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

Frieza is the archenemy of goku nowadays. Frieza pretty much became the breakout villain of the series since he was he catalyst of the franchise. Goku never had an archenemy as he was always fighting enemies. When he finished with one he moved on to the other. This whole "archenemy and rivalry" thi...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

But toriyama wants Frieza to stay now and things change. There's a lot of things Toriyama does and wants that I don't agree with. Just because Toriyama thinks something doesn't mean I'm going to blindly follow him. Well Frieza had become the most recurring villain in the seires for better or worse ...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

I don't like the idea of villains returning. The DB Cast is big enough. Bringing them back sometimes ruins their character (Ex. Ress F) and once again delays the process of moving forward, meeting new characters, etc. I'd rather they stay dead or appear in Specials to delve more into their history ...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

I don't like the idea at all and think that Freeza should've been left dead after Trunks killed him. Freeza was never anything more than a villain of an arc in a long line of villians, there's no reason for him to be treated as anything more. The DB lore has limitless possibilites so there's no nee...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Re: Recurring Villains discussion

I don't know how many times he can keep coming back. I think that we are gonna start seeing him more and more as an uneasy ally more than anything, because at this point he knows that he can't fuck with Goku and friends again, or he'll be dead for good. It would be really stupid for him to come bac...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Recurring Villains discussion
Replies: 42
Views: 2292

Recurring Villains discussion

You know this topic is quite interesting that back in the day Dragon Ball had never had a returning villain before most of them were only for sagas and few that do they simply used for filler or gt to be jobbers and never play a major role in any arcs beyond used for laughs. The closeting ot a recur...
by Toxin45
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Freeza The Main Antagonist Of DB?
Replies: 51
Views: 3934

Re: Is Freeza The Main Antagonist Of DB?

Frieza he was revived twice after all and he became the overarching villain now.