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by Ripper 30
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 18739

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

It's not so long in manga, it's one continuous reverse transformation. If he had stayed in buff form then your argument would have made sense but he was continuously going back, no one ever refuted that his ki came down or anything. Again, that was to show what South Kaioshin turned him into and whe...
by Ripper 30
Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:44 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 18739

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

When other characters were torn out of super boo , he lost his powers instantly. When Super boo lost fat buu(which had both Kaioshin in him), their powers and influence also left instantly. Moments after the powers and influence were gone, it was openly stated by goku and vegeta that "shouldn't his ...
by Ripper 30
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:35 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 18739

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

Except that Goku used a non-exhaustive "and" there, which in Japanese means that he was just using those two as examples of those that were resurrected, not that he specifically mentioned those two for a particular reason. Besides, given even the more conservative strength scaling, Super Saiyan Got...
by Ripper 30
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 18739

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

Buu can sense ki, so he'd know there were strong individuals around on Earth and have a good reason to teleport back there, and outside of using the last wish Polunga had, there wouldn't be anyone around to teleport. Kaioushin's drained of genki and Goku's pre-occupied. There's no quick way for the...
by Ripper 30
Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 18739

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

Genki Dama fails and Buu kills Goku and Vegeta, then teleports to Earth and blows it up before Gohan and the others can even do anything, then do the same for other planets across the universe. Doesn't have to fight anyone yet everyone else is doomed. Isn't that way too convenient for your narrativ...
by Ripper 30
Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 18739

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

Exactly there is zero benefit to only bringing one of them. I'm bored AF at this topic. Goku is scared of regular super buu, and needs to fuse, in which he thinks is permanent, to beat Gotenks Buu. He then doesn't get insta killed by a kid buu who is according to these people, stronger than all 4 s...
by Ripper 30
Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:01 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

Goku explicitly stated that nothing he does works on him and he needs to gather Ki for One Minute which means he's weaker unless you think Piccolo was stronger than Raditz. You can't increase your power by gathering ki for a minute, the series has already shown it. Obviously Goku was trying to crea...
by Ripper 30
Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Times when Anime outdid the manga scenes
Replies: 40
Views: 5714

Re: Times when Anime outdid the manga scenes

But it already contradicts how Toriyama mentioned that a Kaio can't become a Kaioshin and Kaioshin are separately born. It doesn't really make much sense in DBS, with how they established that after going through training a Kaio can become a Kaioshin. So the life of Kaioshin switches from person to...
by Ripper 30
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 18739

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

wow. you ppl realy make something so simple to a complex mathematical work. vegeta simply wants to be sure becouse gotenks alone is enough so why would he say gohan? see? the other way around its the same, if vegeta knows how strong he was than why would he say gotenks? if i have two strong ppl i w...
by Ripper 30
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:18 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

Someone being purely evil doesn't make them Most difficult Boo. It's simple, Elder Kaioshin got to know about Boo having 2 gods in him, Vegeta separated him so it's obvious he's talking about power here. The funny thing is you mention contradiction because Goku already made a contradiction when he ...
by Ripper 30
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:32 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Replies: 94
Views: 18739

Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight

There's no reason not to bring both of them. They are together and if the wish is worded right they can all be brought along with one wish. Gotenks might fuck up and get injured and it's another person to deflect any planet destroying attacks. There's no reason to assume they'd need both or all 4 t...
by Ripper 30
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:23 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

I am sorry but at this point you deny to even believe what's mentioned in manga, when 3 of 4 expressions in manga were gag expression. Are you for real now? Just read those panels to check for myself and I see nothing out of character for Goku. If anything, Goku's lighteartedness may be played up a...
by Ripper 30
Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

Again, Goku has gag expression for 3 of 4 panels. That doesn't show any feeling of being scared, Infact he was smiling and ready to take on Evil Boo before Vegeta removed Good Boo. If Goku was judging off ki then he could have said "Yea his ki is even lower than last boo" but no it wasn't anything....
by Ripper 30
Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:50 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

You keep giving out headcanon. Your assumptions and reasons about Goku being able to kill Super Buu with SSJ3 is not in the story. The complete opposite of what you makeup is in the narrative however. I am not saying Goku can kill Evil Boo but just that he was trying to persuade Vegeta, at that tim...
by Ripper 30
Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

No you aren't making any sense because you are so mixed up by crossing quotes which have absolutely no bearing on the fact that Goku stated Super Buu will outright kill him and Vegeta but said he can fight Kid Buu head up. Goku did INDEED fight Kid Buu head up and add the fact that he had enough po...
by Ripper 30
Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

As I said in the other thread. There is zero reason not to bring both of them. They are together and if the wish is worded right they can all be brought along with one wish. Gotenks might fuck up and get injured and it's another person to deflect any planet destroying attacks. There's no reason to ...
by Ripper 30
Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:40 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

That was the point, Vegeta thought it will work for better but you really think he will get even weaker than Good Boo? Goku wanting to obliterate Boo has got nothing to do with him being stronger but similar to how Piccolo wanted to gather enough ki to kill Raditz and asking someone else to distrac...
by Ripper 30
Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

You can't argue the whole "he lied here, so he could have lied there too" because with Fat Buu, it was later revealed that he was lying about it. With Evil Buu, what is said is never countered, contradicted, or otherwise established as a lie. As for the Kaioushin absorptions, again, only one was ev...
by Ripper 30
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:35 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

What you just stated does not disprove the fact that Goku was said to be able to fight kid buu on a level playing field. Which he did. That means stronger than Gohan as well, it's not like Gohan was forgotten by Vegeta since he saw everything from afterlife. his doesn't disprove Goku's statements a...
by Ripper 30
Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?
Replies: 105
Views: 17159

Re: Pure Boo > Evil Boo makes more narrative sense?

It's only an anime thing that the guides documented and was continued upon in DBS. Historically, people drew the opposite conclusion, and that was naturally by just reading. However, I must say that TOEI studios did their best to make Goku vs Pure Boo the strongest match until then, by crafting som...