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by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yes, that is you guessing. That doesn't actually mean anything, again, as far as hard facts go. If you're looking for hard facts, then we should ask Herms or someone else what's the original statement. Something like that. Maybe you could exploit Toriyama's "right around 6" statement to mean "sligh...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yes, that is you guessing. That doesn't actually mean anything, again, as far as hard facts go. Weren't you using Kaio being uncertain about Trunks' power to argue he wasn't much stronger than Goku the other day? Why the sudden shift? Those two statements are pretty much the same. Unless you're goi...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

No, he's just stronger than Beerus. In the actual statement he wonders if Vegetto is stronger or not ("Could it already be greater than Lord Beerus’s?!"), implying it's too close to tell. Though Kaioshin has never seen Beerus' full power, so he might simply be speculating because of how big Vegetto...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

This is close to what I think the aforementioned training gap implies (plus, as noted, Vegeta spending a year in the ROSAT and "only" coming out with a way to maintain SSB's power instead of a huge power-up). Only, instead of them simply not powering up at all, their power-ups just become so increm...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:50 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

How strong do you guys make Goten & Trunks in relation to their dads? Unlike most people i actually think they're stronge than their dads in equal forms, but not by much. Full Power Super Saiyan is supposed to be the limit of the Saiyan power and thanks to being hybrids, the boys should have a high...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472570

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Below mercenary tao level Not true. He has always been stronger than Tao since his debut. Tambourine vs yamcha (healed leg) Tambourine vs yajirobe Tambourine one shots. He one shoted Kuririn, who's at least as strong as Yamcha. Goku fought Yajriobe and called him a tough opponent, so Yajirobe has g...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:52 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

RandomGuy96 wrote:Zamasu's regular body is comparable to SS1 Goku
Zamasu struggled against Kibito though. I'm pretty sure the Imortal Zamasu is far stronger than the present one, like in the Anime.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Where do you guys have SSJB "Not Kaioken" Goku and SSJB Vegeta "Evolved Not"? They're bootleg versions of their anime counterparts and showed up in the manga. I like to think stressed power SSJB Goku is about 2x SSJB Goku since the technique was compared to Kaioken, and SSJBE Vegeta is equals with ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:58 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Nah, I haven't put that much thought into it. The one concrete line is that 'not even 10%' of SSB Vegeta's power was surpassed by SSG Goku, which implies SS Goku was still weaker (so SSB is 10x as powerful as SS1 at least). If we take 'Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan' literally, and that is literally...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:27 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Can I just ignore Super's existence?
Replies: 92
Views: 5904

Re: Can I just ignore Super's existence?

You can do whatever you want, seriously. That would be head canon, though.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:03 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472570

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Ssjcell wrote:Kibito vs 18
Kibitokai vs SPC
Kibito gets demolished. He's featless.

That's a tough one. I'd give it to SPC, he's more impressive overall. Kibitoshin can beat SSJ2 Teen Gohan though.
SSJ Vegetto wrote:Shin has power around SPC
Not really. Goku threatened to one shot him as a Super Saiyan.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:11 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

I have a question for everyone, assuming your lists use the scouters method, are your numbers Ki quantity or an hierarchy between the fighters in question? For example: Goku vs Piccolo Daimaõ, the first won but when I make a list I always put Daimaõ as having a higher number. This because he spent ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472570

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Noah wrote:New matches:

- SSJ Kid Trunks vs. Super Trunks
- SSJ Goten vs. Super Vegeta
The kids stomp in both scenarios. Multiple feats places them on FPSSJ Tier.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472570

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Base Vegito (ToP) vs True Golden Freeza Base Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games) Fatigued Jiren (ep.131) vs Hit (ToP) UI Omen Goku (Namek arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc) SSBE Vegeta (Saiyan arc) vs Ultimate Gohan (Buu arc) SSJ Rage Trunks (Cell Games) vs SSG Goku (BoG) 1. Vegetto s...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Did Nail have his dormant power unlocked?
Replies: 9
Views: 659

Did Nail have his dormant power unlocked?

Did he? It's hardly implied that Guru did it, but it would justify Nail's power level being so high.

The problem is, it would imply Kuririn far surpassed Nail, since his official BP by V-Jump is 75,000... How is that possible? A human far outstripping a namekian's dormant power?
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Metamoran Fusion Formula
Replies: 44
Views: 2472

Re: Metamoran Fusion Formula

There isn't one. Gotenks powered up a lot, yet the kids had little to no gains.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472570

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. Vegeta(Saiyan Arc) Vs Pui Pui 2. Yakon Vs Freeza 3. Grandpa Gohan vs Tao Pai Pai 4. Broly Vs Super Perfect Cell 5. Goku(Beerus Arc) Vs Gohan (Post Z-Sword) 1. Pui Pui one shots. Babidi recruited him to take down on Kaioshin and people he believed to be powerful enough to fill Boo's meter. 2. Yak...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

@RG96 Gero called Piccolo the strongest Z Fignter even before they fought, implying "Base" Piccolo > Gohan. Forgot to mention this and now it's too late for me do edit it into the first post...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

I gotta disagree with you here. A while ago i made a breakdown on Goku vs Freeza and Freeza actually landed 5 blows, in contrast to Goku landing 8. With the exception of that part when Goku snaps Freeza's hand that seemed more like a skill advantage, their fight was roughly even, even after Freeza'...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11324
Views: 761458

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

If Vegeta and Trunks realized how defective Grades 2 and 3 are and focused on mastering SS to Grade 4, how strong would they become? Equal to their power vs the Cell jrs, Cell Games Goku,....? Probably as strong as his Boo Arc self. Grade IV is stated to be the pinnacle of SSJ power in Daizenshuu 2...