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by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:09 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11323
Views: 761340

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Maybe, but in that specific case I also think Vegeta may have become difficult to accurately sense, like the other guys under Bobbidi's spell. Or he might not be sensable at all at that point, and Piccolo is guessing based on what he may have sensed from Vegeta earlier. I doubt Vegeta would be full...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11323
Views: 761340

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Kaboom wrote:Oh, I see. Well, that sort of roundaboutism is pretty common, and sometimes just a more subtle way of saying something is actually the case.
Kaboom, do you think this could be also the case with Piccolo saying Vegeta is "perhaps" stronger than Kid Gohan?
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong was Goku REALLY at the start of Dragonball?
Replies: 12
Views: 703

Re: How strong was Goku REALLY at the start of Dragonball?

50 is fine. Lowest i'd go with is 30 here, though 10 could fit if you really don't give a shit about gaps.

The problem here is that people are forgetting that durability and strength depends on Ki. Goku needed to power up (Turn into a SSJ) to lift those weights in the Boo Arc.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who is the strongest (living) character at the end of the original series?
Replies: 49
Views: 2667

Re: Who is the strongest (living) character at the end of the original series?

It's still Gohan. Goku is shown to be still weaker than Gotenks in equal forms based on his fight with Oob, and Gohan is considerably above SSJ3 Gotenks.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11323
Views: 761340

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

I think it's more likely that Trunks just isn't that much stronger than Namek Goku, if he is at all, hence why Kaio only says "maybe." That would fit Gohan's "he has the same ki as dad" statement pretty well too (even if the exact wording doesn't necessarily say "amount of ki", instead just saying ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472398

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

PFM18 wrote:Why pass?
Because i have no clue about who would win. I barely mind watching the anime, let alone it's power scaling.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472398

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

RecolorSaiyan wrote:RoF Golden freeza is on par with CSSB Goku?
Misread it.

I think Gohan would win easily. I don't see him being far below PSSJB tier based on his fight with Kefla, who even before merging could fight Goku a bit.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472398

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1.) Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs RoF Golden Freeza 2.) a17 (dbs manga) vs super vegetto (buu saga) 3.) SSB Vegeta (pre episode 122) vs Base Toppo 1) Freeza with mid diff. He's on pair with CSSJB Goku, who's still stronger than Gohan according to Kuririn. 2) 17 finger clicks. Goku is likely above Vegetto...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Questions about post oozuru Vegeta.
Replies: 4
Views: 416

Re: Questions about post oozuru Vegeta.

Post Oozaru he's weaker than right before becoming an Oozaru, as the loss of tail was shown in Dragon Ball (The one before Z) to affect the Saiyan's power, not to mention Goku hitting him in the eye and what not might have made him weaker. He's weakened enough that Gohan with a BP of 2,800 could fig...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472398

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

There is. In both Toriyama's RoF script and in Super, Kuririn says that as long as Boo is around they will be fine while facing First form Freeza. That's as clear cut as it can get. Boo can turn Freeza into candy or absorb him though. Pure Boo arguably could defeat even Gotenks or Gohan thanks to t...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How powerful is current Piccolo?
Replies: 72
Views: 2932

Re: How powerful is current Piccolo?

Stronger than Base Saiyans, at the very least he's words above his Z self. I'd personally say he can take out Gohan-Boo, but would get trounced by Super Vegetto.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:55 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472398

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1:Raditz vs a Saibaman 2:Annin vs Piccolo Daimao 3:Cell vs Dabura 4:Jiren(Heavily supressed) vs Infinite Zamasu 5:Goku Black vs Caulifla 6:Super Buu(Janemba absorbed) vs Beerus (Heavily supressed, no Hakai) 7:Appule vs Cui 8: 10 Metal Coolers vs 5 Cell Jrs 9:Giran vs General Blue 10:Android 21 vs H...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:33 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11323
Views: 761340

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

He didn't 'tank' anything. He was hurt by the blast and Buu's meter went up a tick. He was just in a uniquely bad position in regards to Cell's blast. Daizenshuu 7 also refers to Gohan and Dabra as being "fairly even" in their fight, so Gohan's edge should be slight. Gohan was only "weakened" in th...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Did the z fighters fight 19 and 20 in the future?
Replies: 13
Views: 674

Re: Did the z fighters fight 19 and 20 in the future?

Pretty sure Trunks would've known if they existed. Why would Bulma or Gohan leave such a important detail?

Plus, if the Z Fighters had fought #19 and #20 they would've been killed and there would be no need to activate #17 and #18.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472398

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. Base Kale (manga) vs SSJ Vegetto ( Buu saga) 2. SS Rose Black vs Base Kefla 3. Base Toppo and SLSM Dyspo vs Golden Freeza and A17 1. I think Kale wins. She was even stronger than SSJ Caulifla, according to Freeza. 2. Black stomps. SSJ Kefla was still weaker than PSSJB Goku, and i don't see the P...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:26 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11323
Views: 761340

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Vegeta was gonna try and take Goku down regardless of Future Trunks existing to confirm multiple Super Saiyan's can happen: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8pjENY5KtMc/V6JPS6DWWKI/AAAAAAAB6f0/CYvRMc2rjg892pCADV4WbykgONpR5nEdQCHM/s16000/0135-002.png Makes sense. Through training he'd eventually hit his li...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11323
Views: 761340

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

A small note on the Cell Games: after Cell comes back from the dead and is seemingly on Gohan's level now, is it possible that the Gohan he wounded wasn't at full strength? By which I mean, only on par with SS2 Gohan from 7 years later due to lacking rage? I ask this because I just noticed that Goh...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Cell Games Piccolo
Replies: 33
Views: 1885

Re: Cell Games Piccolo

Yes, really. Look at Recoome's actual condition. Whether he says he was trying or not, the injuries he took would have been severe for just about any normal person. What only supports my point of his shape being misleading, as all the damage Vegeta did was superficial: Chapter: 275 (DBZ 81), P12.4 ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:09 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Cell Games Piccolo
Replies: 33
Views: 1885

Re: Cell Games Piccolo

Or maybe it's just because he got hit really, really hard. Or both. Though either way it doesn't matter. I asked you to provide an answer based on shape, so me bringing up something that happened during the fight comes off as hypocrital. Forget about that. If anything you're just backing up my poin...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34568
Views: 1472398

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

The kili machine could clearly only measure one power level at a time while the scouter could measure multiple at a time and seemed far more high tech. You can't really compare the two. Not what i had i mind exactly. The Kili Meter indeed can only pick up one Ki signature, but it would pick the str...