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by Simere
Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I can agree in theory it wouldn't hurt. I can't agree in the context of this execution that it didn't hurt.
by Simere
Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 15682

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

Even supposing that(which does not run contrary to my position), how does that show it's the same as it was against Vegeta?
by Simere
Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

He didn't use Blue Kaioken. I've asked some Japanese translators and they said it was only compared to Kaioken. Krillin's statement just got translated poorly in Viz. He was only agreeing with Tenshinhan that it does put a toll on the body. The English seems perfectly fine to me. Tenshinhan was onl...
by Simere
Sat Aug 25, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 15682

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

You didn't read my post at all. Well, that's one disrespectful theory. I'm not surprised it's one you'd favor. Me, I always go with thinking that I didn’t make myself clear, or perhaps that they know something I don't. Except if they respond too quickly. Anyway, I wonder which theory is supported b...
by Simere
Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 15682

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

Frieza didn't power up. There was no change in form or aura. Frieza literally decided to go from completely playing around to actually fighting. Do you really think Frieza got more durable in between fighting Vegeta and fighting Goku? Are you ignoring that he said he's been holding back his power a...
by Simere
Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I feel that Battles between universes was going too high
Replies: 15
Views: 1140

Re: I feel that Battles between universes was going too high

What's the value of a universe? Why stay within its confines? DB has the liberty of going anywhere it wants.
by Simere
Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 15682

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

So anime fanboys can accept that Roshi, who had not fought in any saga since the start of Z. Could go mano a mano versus the strongest warriors in other Universes. Yet he was weaker than Raditz. But he dodging and making jiren block, is too Much ? lol? If I hear another person say that Roshi made J...
by Simere
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Toyotaro needs to be let go/fired
Replies: 152
Views: 13153

Re: Toyotaro needs to be let go/fired

Does anyone want to feel sad for me that I'm often intimidated away from posting by some of the stauncher manga supporters? Those guys in the Funimation dub thread are pretty scary too.
by Simere
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:56 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Roshi is not the master who taught him fundamentals. He absolutely is. Roshi specifically called those busywork exercises "the basics" multiple times, then reiterated how they helped solidify their perception, power, speed, and minds. That's what I was referring to. And what Roshi was referring to ...
by Simere
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:04 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?
Replies: 231
Views: 15682

Re: Can someone explain to me why Roshi vs Jiren is bad?

Gohan was Goku's first master.
by Simere
Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:43 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

What's the transformation beyond Blue and did Goku push past the wall this tourney like he said to Hit? Yes, he did, the transformation IS UI! Wait, wait, wait. Wait! Let me think. The question is...what's the transformation...beyond Blue...? Is it SSBKK? Is it SSBE? SS4? Um...uh...oh, you're right...
by Simere
Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:26 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Roshi, the master who taught him the fundamentals, then reminds him of the fundamentals. Roshi is not the master who taught him fundamentals. Notice how Roshi is not one of the masters Goku remembered giving him advice? The great lark of all this is that Roshi is the master that had nothing to offe...
by Simere
Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Read yourself. You are saying Goku didn't have UI in mind when talking about a wall. You claim it was just more power yet Goku's power shot up and even damaged his body trying to fight Jiren and still wasn't satisfied. Whis even confirms the wall Goku is talking about during that time. When Goku fi...
by Simere
Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Your math problem comparison doesn't work cause Goku already knew the answer [UI] to his problem but didn't know how to achieve it. This was proved when Goku concluded with "right" after Jiren stated that there is "nothing left on the table for him." Meaning, both Goku and Jiren conclude in that st...
by Simere
Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

You still lack context and keep assuming. If UI wasn't something Goku was thinking about since chapter 35, why confirm to Jiren this was the wall he was preaching about when needlessly powering up to attain it? Well, first of all, he said "probably". What am I assuming? He would say that because it...
by Simere
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

If Goku didn't know what the wall was why did he say it's the only option for everyone to defeat Jiren? He knew what the wall was , he just didn't know how to attain it. This is where Roshi comes in to show him the way. Because he just got beaten easily and knows he's not strong enough, and he thin...
by Simere
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

U forgot the conclusion, that Goku himself confirmed This was the wall he needed to overcome to Jiren. The whole point was Goku tried to access UI by power increase but it was through spiritual means, like Whis and the rest taught him on how to achieve it. I'm not forgetting. That was my first sent...
by Simere
Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Except Jiren confirms that Goku overcame his wall when he reached UI. Goku confirmed that beyond the wall was UI before he reached UI. That doesn't mean his goal was UI the entire time. Yeah, the manga's been building up to UI as the next level, but that still doesn't mean Goku knew it. "What I nee...
by Simere
Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14214
Views: 850197

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

ricky84 wrote:Kale beating Broly (in a sequel film or later series) is the only plausible option that's neither predictable (MUI Goku, SSB Fusion) nor anticlimatic (Beerus, self-destruction).
The latter two, maybe, but what would be plausible about it?
by Simere
Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2080725

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Hit ask's Goku the meaning of overcoming the wall. Goku agrees that it's a transformation stronger than Blue. Being stronger than SSB doesn't have to mean UI, though. The wall is something he felt inside himself. He knew he was on the verge of something. He didn't know how to get through "the wall"...