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by TBMx
Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

Yeah, its a simple question. If what Beerus says is true, why has no god of destruction ever surpassed their own angel? I don't like how easy this technique or form is being given to Vegeta. Watch and steal? That's not going to feel prestigious at all. Comes across like any Z fighter could have done...
by TBMx
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:40 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

I like this direction, as there's no need to have both main characters be copies of one another. It also means we can have more interesting team ups with them, as each can make up what the other lacks. The ending of the Moro arc was great for this very reason, Vegeta lacked the physical power to fi...
by TBMx
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:13 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: If Vegeta’s “goal” is TRULY to surpass Kakkarot.. Then he’s definitely going about it THE WRONG WAY!
Replies: 42
Views: 1460

Re: If Vegeta’s “goal” is TRULY to surpass Kakkarot.. Then he’s definitely going about it THE WRONG WAY!

How is Vegeta still worse at emptying his mind than Mr Popo, after 4 years of Angel training and months of Spirit control meditation? It's insane how little he progresses. Its why I'm so shocked it took him this long to realize this wasn't working. Only when he saw Goku got it. And is only now hopin...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

This time they overplayed their hand when it comes to the teasing. Vegeta rivalling Goku from an inferior mentor with 1/20th of the training is obviously not happening. :lol: Its like with the Yardrat training. I was telling the people who were all hyped up, "Do you really expect him to rival Goku ...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

This topic is kinda overlapping with the other one, but I'd say that whatever Vegeta ends up with, it is probably likelier to end up complementing what Goku achieves rather than really challenging it, even though that's Vegeta's intention. And I'm interested to see in what way that might be the cas...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: If Vegeta’s “goal” is TRULY to surpass Kakkarot.. Then he’s definitely going about it THE WRONG WAY!
Replies: 42
Views: 1460

Re: If Vegeta’s “goal” is TRULY to surpass Kakkarot.. Then he’s definitely going about it THE WRONG WAY!

Yeah, but his stated goal is to surpass Goku, so it don't make sense, does it. Why doesn't it suit him again? They've shown UI Omen isn't blank faced and mindless anymore. They had Vegeta calm and balance his mind with spirit control meditation. He polished it more than Goku's. Beerus can use UI for...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

This entire motivation for Vegeta literally only works if angels and GoD's are comparable. It doesn't work if gods of destr are fodder to angels. Why would Vegeta model himself off fodder to angels when Goku's modelling himself off angels when the goals to surpass Goku? Makes no sense. When Vegeta l...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

This time they overplayed their hand when it comes to the teasing. Vegeta rivalling Goku from an inferior mentor with 1/20th of the training is obviously not happening. :lol: Its like with the Yardrat training. I was telling the people who were all hyped up, "Do you really expect him to rival Goku f...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

This is essentially a random afterthought consolation handwave for the UI rejects. A quick way of powering up Vegeta so he can do his usual hype then job role. Goku's UI is the culmination of his entire life's teachings. Vegeta's whatever will be a hastily thrown together thing that will be mostly ...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

This is essentially a random afterthought consolation handwave for the UI rejects. A quick way of powering up Vegeta so he can do his usual hype then job role. Goku's UI is the culmination of his entire life's teachings. Vegeta's whatever will be a hastily thrown together thing that will be mostly ...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta new form?
Replies: 62
Views: 1509

Re: Vegeta new form?

This is essentially a random afterthought consolation handwave for the UI rejects. A quick way of powering up Vegeta so he can do his usual hype then job role. Goku's UI is the culmination of his entire life's teachings. Vegeta's whatever will be a hastily thrown together thing that will be mostly t...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..
Replies: 33
Views: 1227

Re: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..

Going down exactly the same paths as Goku has only ever landed Vegeta in second place. Goku joined Vegeta's path. Training with Whis was Vegeta's idea. So because Goku got UI first, its his path now? And Vegeta just has to leave? That's sad. "I joined you on your path and because I did better its m...
by TBMx
Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..
Replies: 33
Views: 1227

Re: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..

I also don’t see how there was anything childish about not wanting UI. He just came to the epiphany that it wouldn’t suit him and Whis agreed. I didn't say there was anything childish about not wanting UI. I said it was childish that he didn't want it just because Goku got it. Before Goku transform...
by TBMx
Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:05 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..
Replies: 33
Views: 1227

Re: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..

My problem isn't that Vegeta thinks UI isn't for him, its that he only started to think that once Goku got it. Before that, he was willing to train with Whis for it. Which is extremely childish for a 50 year old man. Its like if you wanted to be Goku's second, this would be the way to go about it. I...
by TBMx
Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..
Replies: 33
Views: 1227

Re: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..

Vegeta had already given up on Ultra Instinct all the way back in the Tournament of Power. That was (essentially) three arcs ago. He has developed his own evolution of Super Saiyan Blue taking the progress he has acquired while training under Whis (the successive mastery improvements of Super Saiya...
by TBMx
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..
Replies: 33
Views: 1227

Re: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..

Whats blatantly inconsistent is that in RoF, Whis says UI will take a long time, and that Vegeta will have a harder time learning it. Whis still decides to train Vegeta for UI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exg0thyJSDU Vegeta accepts all of this as he trains with Whis anyway. He didn't say "I want...
by TBMx
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:17 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..
Replies: 33
Views: 1227

Re: Vegeta’s ridiculous situation..

An actual person wouldn't throw away 4 years of work toward UI for some unknown method he vaguely hopes becomes apparent. He's acting like he knows he has a writer. It way too late in the game to bring up the idea that he has a problem learning what Goku learns, or learning where Goku learned. The w...
by TBMx
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Ultra Instinct from amazing to rapid decline
Replies: 17
Views: 1881

Re: Ultra Instinct from amazing to rapid decline

It was as I thought and said. They were never going to be able to top Goku vs Kefla, and what a shock, they couldn't. I was falling asleep during MUI vs Jiren because we've seen it done better in the very same tournament. :yawn: Giving Goku all that at the end was redundant and overindulgent. Didn'...
by TBMx
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Was Goku vs Jiren Good?
Replies: 49
Views: 4322

Re: Was Goku vs Jiren Good?

It wasn't good, it was boring. The reason for this is because both Jiren and Goku UI are non- talkers. Two non talkers don't work, so have to rely on annoyingly redundant commentary from the peanut gallery. Krillin's commentary is expecially grating. Kefla vs Goku worked because Kefla is such a talk...
by TBMx
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Ultra Instinct from amazing to rapid decline
Replies: 17
Views: 1881

Re: Ultra Instinct from amazing to rapid decline

It was as I thought and said. They were never going to be able to top Goku vs Kefla, and what a shock, they couldn't. I was falling asleep during MUI vs Jiren because we've seen it done better in the very same tournament. :yawn: Giving Goku all that at the end was redundant and overindulgent.