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Cause Vegeta is training with Whis 6 months in advance while Goku himself was not? He straight up joked about Vegeta being stronger than him when he raged on Beerus, and even Vegeta got salty in episode 72 and mentioned how Goku cares about fighting Hit more than himself. Then in this current saga ...

If Goku didn't care about Vegeta surpassing him, why did he burst through Bulma's wall, interrupt her conversation with Chi Chi and act all outraged when she said Vegeta had gone training without him? Cause Vegeta is training with Whis 6 months in advance while Goku himself was not? He straight up ...

If Goku didn't care about Vegeta surpassing him, why did he burst through Bulma's wall, interrupt her conversation with Chi Chi and act all outraged when she said Vegeta had gone training without him?

The anime must have changed directors after the Zamasu arc because I noticed up till then Goku and Vegeta were portrayed with similar levels of prominence. But after Zamasu, Vegeta got dropped like hot coal and was seeming deliberately written out of the show. He didn't have a single fight for 32 ep...

In the anime, Goku's archrival is the Alien of the Month. Not Vegeta. Toyotaro goes a long way to correcting this, resulting in a vastly superior product.

I think the better question is why didn't Goku use it. It's better than Kaioken and achieved just by powering up and remembering sentimentality - which we don't even know if thats required. If Goku is such a "prodigy" it should be easy. His universe is on the line here. Vegeta’s new form came from ...

They couldn't give Vegeta even a second of UI Omen against Jiren or Toppo. Not even a hint he'll get it in the future. Because he can't and he won't. His character will always be too uptight. Because that's an "iconic" Vegeta-ism.

I think the better question is why didn't Goku use it. It's better than Kaioken and achieved just by powering up and remembering sentimentality - which we don't even know if thats required. If Goku is such a "prodigy" it should be easy. His universe is on the line here.

A Gary Stu makes a mockery of the rules of the setting. Goku invents new rules and logik as he goes along. Vegeta not so much. Goku recovering from fighting for instance. If he could do that he would recover from fighting the Cell Jr after Cell. See a writer who's writing an actual character would p...

Goku isn't prodigious. He's just a Gary Stu. Learning and mastering Ultra Instinct in 20 minutes isn't something that can be taken seriously. Some people like to bring up Goku learning Kamehameha instantly, but forget that was a gag. It was played as a joke. Goku learning the Kamehameha instantly w...

Goku isn't prodigious. He's just a Gary Stu. Learning and mastering Ultra Instinct in 20 minutes isn't something that can be taken seriously. Some people like to bring up Goku learning Kamehameha instantly, but forget that was a gag. It was played as a joke. There won't be any second series because ...

They didn't bother to explain what Vegeta's new form is called or how it works. Really disappointing. Especially if this sort of transformation is supposed to replace UI for Vegeta if they ever continue the series.

Feels like a bunch of Goku wank.

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Movies, specials, yes potentially. A second series? Out of the question. There's no where left for Goku to go and there's not enough story to justify another 100+ episodes.

WORST EPISODE EVER. It was exactly as I feared. Jiren, for no reason at all, indulges base Vegeta's pointless attacks. With less than three minutes on the clock WITH HIS UNIVERSE AT STAKE, he doesn't just beat Goku and Vegeta in short order. He's an idiot. Vegeta - Gives energy to Goku at the end w...

Second of all, Whis told Goku and Vegeta of self movement as if it could be something they could achieve in their lifetimes through his training. If it takes an aeon of time to master, then there's no reason for Whis to tell them in the first place, they'd be long dead before they could learn any of...

Why does Vegeta always have to get everything Goku gets ? Because forced artificial "rival plot"....I'm sick of that aspect of Super. That would be giving Vegeta the asspulls too. Heck, I would say that the way Vegeta went SSB2 Is the real asspull No, UI Omen Goku is the asspull. Just as Goku survi...

Vegeta doesn't need to rival Goku, and he didn't achieve the transformation in purely to do so. Vegeta broke his limits because he personally had a heavily vested interest in not only surviving, but winning the Super Dragonballs in order to keep his wish, which I have to say is something neither Pi...

Yes, and he didn't need to, because he surpassed his limitations in his own, in a way that allowed him to become the strongest member of Universe 7 with accessibly. Vegeta's probably around Kefla's level now, meaning he can't even touch UI Omen Goku with that form. Vegeta going down his own transfo...

You are saying this like Vegeta is a real person? The writers decide who gets what , you understand this, right?. If the plot called for it, Vegeta would have UI regardless if you "think" he can or should achieve it. It's clear the writers wanted Vegeta in that moment to not care about chasing Goku...