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by Melee_Sovereign
Tue May 28, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Lmao dark and serious. Right. I would agree that Z is comparatively more dark and serious than Super. But I like dark and serious, so it's a plus for me. That said, Super does have things over Z, but I'm not sure it's enough to say it's overall better. Digimon is comparatively more dark and serious...
by Melee_Sovereign
Tue May 28, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

MasenkoHA wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 8:30 pm

Lmao dark and serious. Right.
I would agree that Z is comparatively more dark and serious than Super. But I like dark and serious, so it's a plus for me. That said, Super does have things over Z, but I'm not sure it's enough to say it's overall better.
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun May 26, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What Happens To A Fighter's Ki After They Die?
Replies: 7
Views: 308

Re: What Happens To A Fighter's Ki After They Die?

Probably just headcanon, but I always thought that the soul keeps the ki.
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat May 25, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Close but no cigar. It's not whether the MCU specifically is designed to bring in revenue (all films are), it's the idea that designing any movie or TV series to bring in money is somehow wrong. At the end of the day, this is about what I get out of the films when I watch them. When I watch DB, I f...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat May 25, 2019 6:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

All of this is to prove your point that the MCU's success by targeting mainstream audiences is not a negative nor easy. It's well earned. There's nothing cynical about it, despite your claim to the contrary. My claim is based on my natural impression of the films when I watch them. I'm always under...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat May 25, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

1 - Marvel produces movies aimed at families. Ex Machina is rated R. Deadpool and Logan are rated R. 2 - The Superhero genre is popular and a known quantity. And Sci-Fi isn't? 3 - Marvel is a franchise that has built a reputation over time. Over the course of a decade, the audience has built an emo...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat May 25, 2019 1:32 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

You claimed they are ONLY successful because of marketing. "It has financial success simply because they have the budget to market the crap out of these movies" are your exact words. That's reductive and that's where the disagreement is coming from. Marketing plays a part, but only so far. Being ex...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat May 25, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

I never claimed otherwise. I claimed earlier that MCU makes a lot of money because of marketing. Do you still object? (because you totally did before, and I can quote you on it) they are doing something better than most other blockbusters on a consistent basis. Maybe that something is, they're mark...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat May 25, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

ABED wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 1:03 pm
I don't know what I wrote would ever lead you to believe I don't think marketing matters.
If it matters -- if it's a factor -- then one can reasonably cite marketing as a reason for financial success. Especially if it's more than half the budget.
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat May 25, 2019 12:46 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Those sorts of marketing budgets are NOTHING to major studios like WB That is beside the point. The point is, MCU clearly sees how much of a factor marketing is. Otherwise, it wouldn't take up a large percentage of their budget. Also, these are record breaking budgets. It's not nothing. Endgame is ...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat May 25, 2019 12:30 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3064
Views: 177100

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

What if Cell absorbed 18 first? Would his Semi-Perfect form look different?
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri May 24, 2019 10:20 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

I know how their system works Then you would have known about the 6-7/10 average I mentioned earlier. I don't fall back on citing their success, you just never seem to understand the point that success is god damn hard. Many of my responses were met with you falling back on citing their success. An...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri May 24, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Not remotely what I was getting at. I didn't conflate the two You seemed to fall back on citing the success of MCU whenever I expressed my problems with it. Rotten Tomatoes uses percentages and their average is in the 80s for both audience and critics. The percentage is approval rating (like or dis...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri May 24, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

ABED wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 3:43 pm

I'm not sure where your measurement of critical consensus came from
Google is your friend. Look it up. The MCU averages at 6-7 out of 10 by critics. Fact.

Just because something is successful, doesn't mean it gets a free pass from criticisms. It's very shortsighted of you to think otherwise.
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri May 24, 2019 2:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

1 - What problems are you talking about? It stirs up controversy when it's not needed. 2 - The MCU has a great track record of both critical and financial success, so both. Plenty of blockbusters chase those dollars and use elements they think will appeal to mass audiences and still end up failing....
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri May 24, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

It's far from pretentious. Big issues like racism, sexism, and inclusion are important and worth including in art, especially popular art. It's worth it when it's done right. Otherwise, it's pretentious, and can stir up more problems than solve any. And as I've said over and over, the MCU's track r...
by Melee_Sovereign
Thu May 23, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

He gives some input and a direction for the overall story, but he's not the one writing the scripts or fleshing out the details. I'm well aware of this. I don't consider myself a feminist, but what's wrong with putting a message such as female empowerment into the story? It's not just female empowe...
by Melee_Sovereign
Thu May 23, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

(even though DB Super being written by committee throws that idea out the window, but I digress) Toriyama is still at the head of it. Beerus would have been some generic lizard creature if he hadn't stepped in. Random example, but I still sense a lot of Toriyama's style, charm and personality in DB...
by Melee_Sovereign
Thu May 23, 2019 12:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

I'm primarily interested in getting to the root of why you take any issue with either story aiming towards a mass audience. Well I think I've already explained why by now. It's not a negative or positive. It's a neutral choice regarding how the stories are told. It's a matter of preference. What's ...
by Melee_Sovereign
Wed May 22, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 11634
Views: 545235

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

And drawbacks of DB going on this long is the taffy has been pulled way too far and now DB's arguably most popular villain, Freeza, is relegated to the role of recurring villain straight out of a Saturday Morning cartoon. I honestly don't mind that Frieza has assumed this role. I'm kind of glad, ac...