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by Ziegander
Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:55 pm
Forum: Episode Discussion Archive
Topic: Super Episode 108 (24 September 2017)
Replies: 353
Views: 79128

Re: Super Episode 108 (24 September 2017)

This was a good episode in general but another bad episode among a string of bad episodes for Gohan. He's being written as pathetic and stupid when in the past he's been neither of those things. When Gohan fought Frieza he was enraged and on point striking with overwhelming force (or at least he ho...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33613
Views: 2078060

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Power levels in Super don't make any sense, so I'm not sure they're even worth discussing. I know that sentiment gets bandied about as often as "if X goes Y, I'm done with Super," but Episode 108 prompted me to do a little math on the subject, using the numbers and multipliers we know, and the resul...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:49 pm
Forum: Episode Discussion Archive
Topic: Super Episode 108 (24 September 2017)
Replies: 353
Views: 79128

Re: Super Episode 108 (24 September 2017)

Not really. He did the same thing Goku did against Copy-Vegeta or even Beerus in the Battle of Gods movie. It isn't about speed, unless you think Beerus was slower than Goku when they fought in Battle of Gods. Freeza knew how to counter IT, Gohan didn't. And base form Gohan fought evenly with base ...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:19 pm
Forum: Episode Discussion Archive
Topic: Super Episode 108 (24 September 2017)
Replies: 353
Views: 79128

Re: Super Episode 108 (24 September 2017)

This was a good episode in general but another bad episode among a string of bad episodes for Gohan. He's being written as pathetic and stupid when in the past he's been neither of those things. When Gohan fought Frieza he was enraged and on point striking with overwhelming force (or at least he hop...
by Ziegander
Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:49 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Whos stronger beerus or jiren?
Replies: 7
Views: 901

Re: Whos stronger beerus or jiren?

supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:Ssb Kaiokenx20 can't match jiren, so obviously jiren is stronger than beerus.
I... don't think Goku has ever used SSBKKx20 on Beerus, but even if he had... I'm pretty sure Beerus would crush that too, so... yeah...
by Ziegander
Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:56 pm
Forum: Episode Discussion Archive
Topic: Super Episode 107 (17 September 2017)
Replies: 183
Views: 64817

Re: Super Episode 107 (17 September 2017)

I'm... actually starting to believe may be what's coming. Maybe. Goku is fighting Jiren seemingly in the middle of the tournament. It's very possible Goku gets his new form while 10 to 20 fighters are remaining, Gohan being one of them. Take a look at the NEP. When's the last time you saw Gohan's le...
by Ziegander
Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which ToP characters would you like to see again?
Replies: 18
Views: 1166

Re: Which ToP characters would you like to see again?

I wish I could say I would like to see the female characters again, but the tournament has failed to use any of them well. Not sure what's going on with Ribrianne, pretty sure she's just going to end up as a distraction. Hopefully she does something impressive. But so far, Lilibeu, I mean wow, all s...
by Ziegander
Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The respect of Beerus.
Replies: 48
Views: 4658

Re: The respect of Beerus.

I honestly don't know why people are so impressed with it. It feels forced and inconsistent. Beerus shit on Krillin who performed much better than Tien, but now we're all supposed to be enamored with Beerus because he called Tien impressive? Impressive for what? Running in a straight line directly a...
by Ziegander
Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Do you feel that my boy Piccolo is being screwed?
Replies: 89
Views: 4761

Re: Do you feel that my boy Piccolo is being screwed?

It's just really sad to me to see that Piccolo is being absolutely, thoroughly outgunned and over-represented by the new u6 saiyans. It just... I would say it doesn't make sense, but that's not really fair since they're from a different universe, but to see that Cabba a u6 SSJ1 is being given prefer...
by Ziegander
Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?
Replies: 363
Views: 25685

Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Just how strong does everyone think the Shin Kikoho is? Just how "costly?" Because... it almost never seems to do Tien any actual harm, even waaaay back in the Saiyan Saga all it ever did, sometimes, was tire him out, the regular Kikoho that is. When he pulled out the Shin Kikoho against Cell he use...
by Ziegander
Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Do you feel that my boy Piccolo is being screwed?
Replies: 89
Views: 4761

Re: Do you feel that my boy Piccolo is being screwed?

He's Gohan's babysitter this arc. This is just simply wrong. I'm certainly not trying to egg on supercat's trolling, but how exactly is that wrong? He's literally done nothing this arc that didn't have to do with Gohan, and 90% of what he's done has been to hover around Gohan and get wrecked by att...
by Ziegander
Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?
Replies: 363
Views: 25685

Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

You're right, I have little factual evidence, but just looking at the numbers here's what we've got: Kikoho couldn't even harm the past saiyans when Tien was training for the arrival of Nappa and Vegeta. His power level at the time was, 250 I believe? And the past saiyans are said to be half as stro...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?
Replies: 363
Views: 25685

Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

While I agree with the overall point, Ten was never a cunning fighter, nor was he stronger than Kuririn the moment Kuririn got his potential unlocked. I don't care to open up this can of worms, because that would be a mostly opinion-based argument that doesn't really hold any water. Your argument f...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?
Replies: 363
Views: 25685

Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Why should Tien, the bottom-tier among the current pile of strategist garbage even get a whole episode wasted on him? I don't understand. He really should have gone down when Narirama was going on his rampage. This would have been a great way to just get him out. I don't find him entertaining to wa...
by Ziegander
Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:54 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?
Replies: 363
Views: 25685

Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

I don't get how anyone thinks Tien is a good fighter. Someone like Frieza would destroy him in hand to hand combat, even at equal powerlevels. Heck, give Tien a 2x boost over Frieza and he'd still lose! Frieza's movements are so graceful, not to mention completely dynamic and acrobatic. Tien would ...
by Ziegander
Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?
Replies: 363
Views: 25685

Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Tenshinhan is the only character participating in the Tournament of Power that, as far as I can tell, through feats and through writing implications, has actually gotten significantly weaker , which is super sad, because I feel like, out of perhaps all of the human fighters, and maybe even some of t...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:23 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?
Replies: 363
Views: 25685

Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

They did used Tien's eyes, namely his superior sight. Which used his normal two eyes that everyone else has, but Tien's are better, I guess? That's not a trait I remember him even having. Superior normal eye-sight? I was expecting a special power involving his third eye, you know, the thing that ma...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:21 am
Forum: Episode Discussion Archive
Topic: Super Episode 106 (3 September 2017)
Replies: 268
Views: 71891

Re: Super Episode 106 (3 September 2017)

So, add that the list of things I didn't like about the episode, one more logical inconsistency. You really don't need to be that specific, dr rota was fine too after the blast.. It could simply be the sniper increasing and decreasing his potency of attack to not kill the opponent as that would get...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:08 am
Forum: Episode Discussion Archive
Topic: Super Episode 106 (3 September 2017)
Replies: 268
Views: 71891

Re: Super Episode 106 (3 September 2017)

I think I just realized where the three clones of Tien came from at the end - they were the same ones that got shot from before! It's the only thing that makes any sense, and yet, if that were the case, then 1/4 of Tien's strength can tank a ki blast that's got Gohan, Goku, and Vegeta all shook and ...
by Ziegander
Sun Sep 03, 2017 3:49 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?
Replies: 363
Views: 25685

Re: What's up with Tenshinhan this arc?

Roshi knows about the same techniques as Tien. Not only do Roshi knows everything Tien knows outside the Tri-Beam, the Multiform, and the Four Witches, Roshi has his Lightning Surprise Attack, Hypnosis, and Drunken Fist. True, true, Roshi has a lot of Techniques too, I forget, but Tien also has his...