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by BlueVegerot
Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:30 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Base Saiyans > Ssj2 Gohan 25th Budokai ?
Replies: 9
Views: 705

Re: Base Saiyans > Ssj2 Gohan 25th Budokai ?

It took goku going ss2 for majin vegeta for vegeta to confirm goku had surpassed gohans level from the cell games. The power that goku used vs yakon which let vegeta know goku had also achieved ssj2 wasn't enough for him to be sure of that. Also while ssj2 goku and majin vegeta were > cell games goh...
by BlueVegerot
Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Does Akira Toriyama's Retroactive Intent Take Any Priority Over Guides Regarding The Story?
Replies: 6
Views: 481

Re: Does Akira Toriyama's Retroactive Intent Take Any Priority Over Guides Regarding The Story?

Like does his original intent of SSJ being "Ten times greater than whatever power that Goku had demonstrated up until then" have any degree of impact still? Or have the guides effectively made a point that cannot be argued against, for any reason, even if the creator didn't entirely agree? He said ...
by BlueVegerot
Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Does Grade 4 Super Saiyan have a greater multiplier than Grade 1 Super Saiyan?
Replies: 18
Views: 2183

Re: Does Grade 4 Super Saiyan have a greater multiplier than Grade 1 Super Saiyan?

No. SSJ grade 4 is just goku and gohan getting used to ssj form and reducing its stamina drain. Their strength comes from sparring together for months worth of time in the ROSAT while vegeta and trunks punched and kicked the air. Essentially goku and gohans base forms far surpassed vegeta and trunks...
by BlueVegerot
Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Does Akira Toriyama's Retroactive Intent Take Any Priority Over Guides Regarding The Story?
Replies: 6
Views: 481

Re: Does Akira Toriyama's Retroactive Intent Take Any Priority Over Guides Regarding The Story?

Like does his original intent of SSJ being "Ten times greater than whatever power that Goku had demonstrated up until then" have any degree of impact still? Or have the guides effectively made a point that cannot be argued against, for any reason, even if the creator didn't entirely agree? He said ...
by BlueVegerot
Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:20 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Still, Beerus was forced to use some power and it was obviously more than just 1%. Gohan trained for few hours. It was clearly stated he got his old power back. Piccolo wanted to see the same power he used on Buu and he got that. He isn't that much stronger. Don't try to tell me he got like 500 tim...
by BlueVegerot
Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Still, Beerus was forced to use some power and it was obviously more than just 1%. Gohan trained for few hours. It was clearly stated he got his old power back. Piccolo wanted to see the same power he used on Buu and he got that. He isn't that much stronger. Don't try to tell me he got like 500 tim...
by BlueVegerot
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

But its not dumb, goku in base in the ft arc was > SSG Goku from BoG arc. trunks was a match for ss2 goku at the start of that arc which would instantly put him above gt characters If base Goku was anywhere near his SSJG from BoG then he would beat Beerus using SSJ or SSJ2 at best. And again, who s...
by BlueVegerot
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Current Golden Freeza absolutely destroys any mortal not named Goku or Jiren.. Yeah no. Hit, Vegeta and Toppo would clobber him Naah, Freeza is way tougher than any of those, the amount of beating he can take and hakai's he can resist is next to none, Hit is a different story, the fight can go anyw...
by BlueVegerot
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Except krillin never fought future zamasu or goku black multiple times in his ss2 form. Trunks did and that alone puts him above anything in gt That's just shitty writing and stupid plot armor to make weak characters somewhat relevant. It's not just about Trunks being strong. Goku and Vegeta are ju...
by BlueVegerot
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Ki Breaker wrote:
BlueVegerot wrote:Rage Trunks vs RoF Golden Freeza, Who is stronger?
Current Golden Freeza absolutely destroys any mortal not named Goku or Jiren..
Yeah no. Hit, Vegeta and Toppo would clobber him
by BlueVegerot
Thu May 31, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Future Trunks destroys anything from GT and thats in his normal ss2 form not even needing rage. SS2? Pff! 0.00001% base is enough! Even DBS Krillin can beat Gogeta SSJ4! Oh god... Except krillin never fought future zamasu or goku black multiple times in his ss2 form. Trunks did and that alone puts ...
by BlueVegerot
Thu May 31, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Was establishing that only 28 planets in Universe 7 have sentient life a mistake from a creative standpoint?
Replies: 42
Views: 3121

Re: Was establishing that only 28 planets in Universe 7 have sentient life a mistake from a creative standpoint?

It would be but shin is a notorious dumbass and toriyama can just retcon that line by giving the in universe explanation that shin is dumb and has no idea what he's talking about if toriyama wants to
by BlueVegerot
Thu May 31, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Future Trunks destroys anything from GT and thats in his normal ss2 form not even needing rage.
by BlueVegerot
Thu May 31, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1747187

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Rage Trunks vs RoF Golden Freeza, Who is stronger?
by BlueVegerot
Thu May 31, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 15548
Views: 1634175

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Why is cooler getting a golden form an issue?

If saiyans can all achieve the same form then why can't cooler who albeit weaker than freeza naturally is still strong af in his own right?

This is like bitching if f trunks got super saiyan blue and claiming its cause he's vegeta's son
by BlueVegerot
Wed May 30, 2018 12:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Difference between the Battle of Gods movie and anime!?
Replies: 5
Views: 609

Re: Difference between the Battle of Gods movie and anime!?

Also in the movie ssg goku made beerus use nearly 70% of his full power whereas in the anime ssg was nowhere in the same universe as beerus as we later found out when whis compared goku to a tree stump and beerus to a castle in the sky
by BlueVegerot
Wed May 30, 2018 12:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Goku didn't win so much in Super
Replies: 30
Views: 2000

Re: Goku didn't win so much in Super

normally in z did not defeat anyone alone gohan defeat cell trunks defeat frieza goku defeated buu thanks to earthlings and shenron but ... Goku defeated Jiren in combat one by one only he did not get him out of the ring to side effect of UI 17 won the tournament only to stay last, not that he won ...
by BlueVegerot
Wed May 30, 2018 12:20 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things that grind your gears
Replies: 3823
Views: 247759

Re: Things that grind your gears

I don't think it was like the kind of schooling we went to. Probably tutor because clearly he has basic communication skills. Goku's not stupid because he's incapable of learning, he just doesn't care to learn things that don't interest him. It's like when Sherlock Holmes says he doesn't know the E...
by BlueVegerot
Tue May 29, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35035
Views: 2721311

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

To me the worst part isn't the fact that he traced... It's seeing people denying it in front of legit proof. Also how most of them, who are uneducated on the subject, try to argue with people who know their shit like Ajay. Toyotaro traced but your worship of a dbtuber is weak Your post is weak. If ...
by BlueVegerot
Tue May 29, 2018 1:09 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things that grind your gears
Replies: 3823
Views: 247759

Re: Things that grind your gears

Goku fanboys always using the same excuses "he hit his head" , "he grew up in the woods" whenever people claim goku is a braindead idiot in anything thats not fighting. Vegeta grew up fighting plant monsters and conquering planets and piccolo was literally spit out and neither of them went to schoo...