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by Kenneth La Torre
Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Considering Base cumber in the game was stated to be stronger than. Beerus and ToP Jiren. Can you provide a source for that? https://youtu.be/3JONVAwaWYg?t=152 " His strength is different from Beerus-sama's and Jiren's... it's getting me pretty excited!" Note he relates their strengths in an ambigu...
by Kenneth La Torre
Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Didn't Base Cumber more or less stalemate Kaioken Blue Vegetto? If Jiren is at least as strong as SSJ3 Cumber then he and UI Goku are monsters. Good lord. The fact that they are stronger than ssj3 cumber now means that they had insane gains after the ToP. Considering Base cumber in the game was sta...
by Kenneth La Torre
Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Guys, go read the game translations of the arc. Jiren is probbably on par with hearts. He is stronger than ssj3 cumber in the games definitely. And the anime also implied it.
by Kenneth La Torre
Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Theres no way Super Saiyan 3 Goku was intended to be nearly that strong going by the manga. He was meant to more powerful than Fat Buu and Kid Buu and weaker than Super Buu and that was it. Even in the anime he was losing to Buutenks. At best he was stronger than Ultimate Gohan according to Toei wh...
by Kenneth La Torre
Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So since the game canon was the one who brought up the statement below, and jiren fought ssj3 cumber, fusion zamasu, and hearts at the same time, we can either do 2 things. 1. We ignore the statement about base cumber being stronger than ToP jiren and beerus Or 2. Accept the fact that Jiren got hund...
by Kenneth La Torre
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Btw, in the game, jiren faces off against ssj3 cumber, fused zamasu, and hearts at the same time. After the fight, heartso praises jiren for being worthy of the title strongest warrior in the multiverse.

I'll put a link soon.
by Kenneth La Torre
Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Jiren and goku definitely had some insane gains after the ToP. But I'm sure LB jiren will be used against hearts, he will lose there. There's no point in hearts wondering who is stronger if he caps at just cumber level, which he doesn't as shown in the episode. Not even a scratch. Looks like he was ...
by Kenneth La Torre
Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The fact that Jiren wasn't serious against ssj3 cumber is amazing. Especially since cumber was supposed to be above ToP jiren.

Jiren quickly proved cumber wrong when he said they were equal.
by Kenneth La Torre
Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14205
Views: 832157

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

To me it was clear that Gogeta looked so superior to Broly because he was a much better fighter, with a lot more tricks in his bag -- not necessarily because he was massively more powerful. Think about it: among many others, Goku and Vegeta have trained with f*cking WHIS, whereas Broly's only 'teac...
by Kenneth La Torre
Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14205
Views: 832157

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

I really can't wait to see this movie. Especially after reading the interviews. I appreciate Nagamine's loyalty to Toriyama's script. He really understands the chain of command. He also stated that Gogeta and Broly's fight was brutal and that both were "pummeling" each other with special attacks. Y...
by Kenneth La Torre
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I have no idea what the hell his green haired version is even supposed to be. Shintani wanted to make a homage to old Broly but made the same mistake of the previous movies, not explaining the form. I’m mostly impressed to see how much these guys reaffirm their respect to Toriyama’s vision, but in ...
by Kenneth La Torre
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I wonder if we could get some power comparisons between broly and ToP jiren and UI Goku with this new interview. Considering that SSJ Full power was not a Toriyama thing (interview will be up soon), it could change a lot of things if that statement was mean for golden hair broly on and not FPSSJ. I...
by Kenneth La Torre
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I wonder if we could get some power comparisons between broly and ToP jiren and UI Goku with this new interview. Considering that SSJ Full power was not a Toriyama thing (interview will be up soon), it could change a lot of things if that statement was mean for golden hair broly on and not FPSSJ. It...
by Kenneth La Torre
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 14193
Views: 875404

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Been trying them out and both are absolutely great. Seems like both have one move that is kinda useless tho (spirit blaster and old brolys ultimate on new broly). Gogeta is very combo heavy oriented, has a great counter, its super fast, his big bang kamehameha and super mad dance work as if he was a...
by Kenneth La Torre
Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:14 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14205
Views: 832157

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

As some has mentioned a couple of pages before, I would prefer if not UI, but Whis to deal with Broly as he defeated Goku, Vegeta and Freeza... I know he said he was neutral, but it would nice to finally see him in action and not in playtime. Also about the movie, what are the plot holes, so far? T...
by Kenneth La Torre
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:21 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Would people say that Jiren at his weakest level that he used, basically when he fought Goku the first time...would already be stronger than Merged Zamasu? Actually now I've asked, it was Shin wasn't it who said he was on a different level to anyone else before it right? So wouldn't Ultra Instinct ...
by Kenneth La Torre
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:15 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

What sells my thoughts on the matter, to me, is the the Genkidama struggle that Jiren had with Goku. At a heavily suppressed level, Jiren easily stalemated SSB/KKx20 Goku without any difficulty on his part and absolute exertion on Goku's end. Goku didn't even struggle this much with Pure Buu who wa...
by Kenneth La Torre
Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:05 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Vegetto SS3 BoG < SSJGod < Base Gogeta?
Replies: 148
Views: 4772

Re: Vegetto SS3 BoG < SSJGod < Base Gogeta?

One of the most logical explanation for how base gogeta is superior to the individual blues is what most are starting to agree with now. fusion takes the max potential of the individuals. Which would make sense with the manga having base vegito blow a hole on merged zamasu, base vegito being above a...
by Kenneth La Torre
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

What sells my thoughts on the matter, to me, is the the Genkidama struggle that Jiren had with Goku. At a heavily suppressed level, Jiren easily stalemated SSB/KKx20 Goku without any difficulty on his part and absolute exertion on Goku's end. Goku didn't even struggle this much with Pure Buu who wa...
by Kenneth La Torre
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30440
Views: 1452011

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

To do to how gogeta beat broly, I see fusion as a power beyond MUI. I didnt see anything in the show that made me believe MUI to be tens of thousands of times stronger than a ssb, especially when Jiren in 127 (who powered up quite a bit) could be tagged and hurt when caught off guard. At most I woul...