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by blain218
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 72595

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

I think what is not being understood is that the manga is a story told in discrete parts. We won't have an elimination count in the manga like we did in the anime, because Toyotarou isn't trying to show each and every fighter and their "moment", but instead, he's telling a story. Krillin and Tien w...
by blain218
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 72595

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

Didn't we have this discussion already?.. Their purpose was to create tension in that chapter to show how Universe 7 isn't going to be as safe as we thought. Which is a terrible way of going about it. Making a character completely useless just to build tension is simply bad writing. There is no way...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1754998

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Beerus's power was retconned a hundred times. In the movies, he used 70% of his power against SsjG Goku (who's now trash) and he could have lost to ROF SsjB Goku and Vegeta (who are now trash). Then: 1) He's stated to be stronger than SsjB KKx10 Goku. 2) In the anime, he says he can easily beat Mer...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 72595

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

The "fanservice" route is still better than not giving them anything to do at all. Just because the original series does something doesn't make justified. That's your opinion. I rather have them as tool who serve a narrative purpose than giving them moments because fans think they deserve it, which...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 37336

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

The fact that SSB Goku couldn't do anything worth his jack against LSSJ Kale yet SSG Goku is able to handle LSSJ v.2 Kale is the inconsistency. Like, was there any reason to go SSB if he was supposedly holding back if he could just go SSG? There is no sensible excuse to this and I am not going to p...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 72595

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

I want to add some details that I think are important which people aren't mentioning. First one: Freeza asked Frost if he had any other form. Meaning Golden which would immediately put Frost in the elites in this rumble. That adds much more value to Frost from Freeza's perspective and easily makes ...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 72595

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

For whatever reason, Super's anime just really loved to drag things out. Kind of ironic, considering the rushed ending it looks it's leaving itself room for. And as brought up in this thread, there are too many writers. It's unlikely that they're on the same page, and if they are, then they're doin...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 72595

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

I want to add some details that I think are important which people aren't mentioning. First one: Freeza asked Frost if he had any other form. Meaning Golden which would immediately put Frost in the elites in this rumble. That adds much more value to Frost from Freeza's perspective and easily makes ...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 37336

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

The list of stuff that is "objective" about art is very short. My opinion about the execution of certain beats isn't objectively true nor objectively false; it's my opinion, the same as yours. For you to throw around the word "objectively" so loosely makes me think this won't be a very productive d...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 37336

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

You seem to be triggered, so I'll try to keep this brief. No, they did not make it clear in LSSJ Kale vs. SSB Goku. You go back and watch that scene, and tell me where did Goku imply he was holding back, from the time he launched that Kamehameha, up until when Kale grabbed him like a toy and tossed...
by blain218
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta's development in Super
Replies: 35
Views: 2290

Re: Vegeta's development in Super

Once again, "changing" traits is not development, expanding on and elaborating on already existing traits is, and Super did that with Vegeta. Except it is for Vegeta, as all his developments in past Sagas has changed how he is going forward, with Buu Saga making him vastly different. What he had in...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 37336

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

1. GT didn't have development. Vegeta's GT episode was just had reminiscing about the past and how he can't catch up to Goku, it was a repeat of his "Vegeta admits Goku is the best" moment in Z. Pan, Uub nor 18 had any special arc or dynamics to them either in GT. Super actually gives the supportin...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1754998

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

It's interesting that you prefer to disregard numbers given directly by Toriyama, yet clinging to others given by guidebooks. By the way, Beerus never said anything about using less than 1% of his full power. yeah in episode 13 they talk about Goku Surpassing Super Saiyan God and how he surpassed i...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta's development in Super
Replies: 35
Views: 2290

Re: Vegeta's development in Super

There's little moments I like throughout the show, like Vegeta going to that island in episode 2 because he promised Trunk, his moment with Cabba in the Tournament of Destroyers and his time with Future Trunks in the Zamasu arc, but other than that I never get the feeling of Vegeta really developin...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35050
Views: 2733408

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Either way, Goku training Caulifla in the middle of the ToP fits his character. The Goku and Caulifla thing was a typical Goku moment Fits his character but it’s not typical ... Goku training somebody onscreen time ? Only remember Gohan training and most of it was out-screen . One thing is to give ...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 37336

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

Honestly, I'd rather watch a Dragon Ball be all about Goku and give him decent character development than have him star in his own show as a manchild who feels like he's regressed since his Z days. GT contrary to popular opinion actually gave development to other characters. Like Pan, Uub, 18, Vege...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 37336

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

I mean is Jiren vs Goku not arguably the best fight in the franchise? Whether it be the fights of 109 and 110 or 129-131those are the best of the best. Gohan had his moments vs Dyspo and the U6 Namekians, Vegeta was actually portrayed as being powerful and his most significant victory in the entire...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 37336

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

I did enjoy Super an awful lot more than GT but I swear, Super had no sense of direction whatsoever. I think a lot of us are happy with Super only because it's not as boring and soulless as GT, but it never even comes close to being a worthy sequel to DBZ/the original manga. People also have the mi...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which did it better, GT or Super?
Replies: 597
Views: 37336

Re: Which did it better, GT or Super?

A bit more time must past for us to evaluate DBS rightfully. We are still hyped from the last 2 episodes. Honestly before TOP I would say GT. Story: 1. GT - a mix of DB and DBZ. Playing it safe an homage to Toriyama`s story. A real continuation of the Buu saga. A more solid structure. Space arc, an...
by blain218
Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35050
Views: 2733408

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Goku training an opponent in a tournament about survival is dumb as hell. Atleast in Vegeta case, the tournament didn’t risk their lives. Goku helping hit but not helping Roshi twice in the anime Goku letting Caulifla and kale escape in 101 Goku training Caulifla These were both dumb as hell and Go...