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by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 3269

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

Says who? It was something said by a few villains and a hype man. It's a statement made in numerous works and it's hyperbolic. There are always limits. It just another way of saying "You're really good and will get better. How much better, we don't know." Giving them a natural wall would not break ...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 3269

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

It is a hyperbolic statement. And yes, we've seen them get stronger, but that just means they haven't yet reached their limits. It's not a betrayal of some core DB tenant. Of course Vegeta would say that, it feeds his ego. Limitations make for good writing. Its not hyperbole if its said over and ov...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1754964

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Hugo Boss wrote:
blain218 wrote:Gohan now should be at least above SSG Goku but below SSB Goku, based on his fight with Dyspo.
SSG Goku fought Dyspo with a large field of movement, Gohan didn’t. Gohan could only beat Dyspo in a straight brawl.
That still proves that in raw power Gohan > SSG Goku > Dyspo
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:56 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 3269

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

It is a hyperbolic statement. And yes, we've seen them get stronger, but that just means they haven't yet reached their limits. It's not a betrayal of some core DB tenant. Of course Vegeta would say that, it feeds his ego. Limitations make for good writing. Its not hyperbole if its said over and ov...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 3269

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

But it's not illogical in universe for even the Saiyans to have limits. They were in-universe to have infinite potential, therefore no absolute or permanent limits so the writers can't back out on that now. Hell, even Kid Goku was written this way I'm Early DB. When was it said they have infinite p...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 3269

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

Yes, it kills the prerequisite value when anyone with Saiyan blood can achieve it. I mean it went from being a transformation only obtainable through pure rage to "tingly back". :problem: You can make the same argument about any ability ever in the series. Remember when knowing how to fly was a big...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3332
Views: 255963

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

What if Zamasu stole Jiren's body instead of Goku's? (sorry if this was asked already).
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1754964

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Super Buu (Black absorbed) vs Toppo
Super Perfect Cell vs Roshi (ToP)
Dyspo vs Copy-Vegeta
Base Kefla vs Future Zamasu
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 3269

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

ABED wrote:But it's not illogical in universe for even the Saiyans to have limits.
They were in-universe to have infinite potential, therefore no absolute or permanent limits so the writers can't back out on that now. Hell, even Kid Goku was written this way I'm Early DB.
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1754964

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

when Piccolo asked about "that power" he was referring to the ultimate form itself. The form that Gohan possess that is beyond his SSJ2 form. The narrator also refers to "that power" as in the form itself. Otherwise, he would be fodder in the tournament of power and wouldn't be able to do anything ...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3332
Views: 255963

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Dragon Ball Gus wrote:What if Majin Buu didn't fall asleep during the writing test and actually competed in the Universe 6 tournament? How far would he go?
He would do well against most of the U6 team except Cabba (if he goes SSJ) and especially Hit.
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super: Broly" - Animation Hub [Updated: 20/07]
Replies: 1081
Views: 170066

Re: Dragon Ball Movie 20 - Animation Hub

Why does everyone hate Yamamuro again? What crimes is he responsible for specifically? I'm sure there's people who can explain it better than be, but in short: stiff and bad designs. I thought the character designs in BOG and ROF were a lot better than Toriyama’s modern, lazier designs. I don’t get...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1754964

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Care to explain? When Gohan turned Ultimate in DBS he was about equal to his DBZ self. Piccolo said that he wants to see the power he used against Buu. Narrator said that he regained his old power. Then he trained for how long? 2 hours? when Piccolo a...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:51 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 3269

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

No its not a legit criticism. Because saiyans are supposed to be beings of infinite potential, people shouldn't have a problem with all of them inevitably getting the transformation and then some. It should be expected of them in the first place. Its like complaining about other cultures rapidly ga...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 3269

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

No its not a legit criticism. Because saiyans are supposed to be beings of infinite potential, people shouldn't have a problem with all of them inevitably getting the transformation and then some. It should be expected of them in the first place. Its like complaining about other cultures rapidly gai...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:39 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 7722
Views: 683276

Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

Based on the results of Final Round 2018, I'd say this game needs a balance patch before Evo 2018 comes. There's already complaints about SSJ Vegeta, Adult Gohan, Goku Black and Cell being too dominant and common at high-level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4EnEAzNkxU https://www.youtube.com/watc...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:26 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1754964

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Super Saiyan Blue Vegito ( Goku Black arc) vs God of Destruction mode Toppo. Lets say fusion time limit isn't an issue and killing + is allowed Vegito Blue easily wins, especially if you go the manga route where he is stated to be stronger than Beerus. Toppo is at best equal to Blue Evo Vegeta, how...
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:23 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35268
Views: 1754964

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

jeffbr92 wrote:- Jiren vs. Beerus
Jiren easily. Jiren even before breaking his limits was stated to be stronger than the Gods.
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:17 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why couldn't Shenron make Android 17 and 18 human?
Replies: 7
Views: 1289

Re: Why couldn't Shenron make Android 17 and 18 human?

Because they already are human. Dr. Gero only enhanced them on a cellular level according to Toriyama. Plus, Shenron can't alter the nature of anyone stronger than its guardian according to what is stated in the series.
by blain218
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Did Jiren truly earn his strength on his own?
Replies: 8
Views: 901

Re: Did Jiren truly earn his strength on his own?

God ki as far far as I know was never stated to have anything to do with raw strength in the first place. All of the Kais naturally have God ki yet the majority of them are weaker than a Cell jr.