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by Surai
Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Your post was ambiguous. You didn’t talk about the manga and the anime separately, you just directly made a statement about Gogeta, Vegeto and Gotenks by using an anime fact. But this misunderstanding between us is not important as long as we agree about the fact that we don’t know anything about B...
by Surai
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Because you’ve made a categorical statement about Base Vegeto’s level, you never said you were specifically talking about the anime. You even talked about both the anime and the manga in your initial post. Whether the anime continuity has any value to you is not the question, it can’t be used when ...
by Surai
Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Okay, so I guess SSJ2 Goku can fight on par with Kid Buu, Goku was already stronger than Perfect Cell just after the end of the Cell saga even before reaching SSJ2 and Ten Shin Han, Yamcha and Chaozu were stronger than Commando Ginyu at the end of Namek saga. If you want to take the anime continuit...
by Surai
Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Base Vegeto didn’t fight Buuhan though. That’s an anime filler. Base Vegetto most certainly did fight Boohan in the anime which is totally canon to the anime continuity. Just because there are slight differences in continuities doesn't mean "they never happened" as there is no one 'true' canon that...
by Surai
Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Vegito >>> Gogeta you have the original manga making that comparison indirectly Potara fusion >>> metamoru fusion Vegito ssj >>> super buu gohan >>>Gotenks ssj3 Gogeta ssj >= Gotenks ssj ... that is easy if you make the comparison of powers between trunks and vegeta in buu arc, vegeta considers tru...
by Surai
Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Neko Majin is just a parody, it’s not meant to be part of the official story. DBS isn’t a parody, it’s a serious sequel to DB. Exactly the response I was expecting. So you see, all about context. You can't really turn the situation into an oversimplification one, proceeding to safely say that "side...
by Surai
Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

I guess we’ll never agree on the concept of canon.

Neko Majin is just a parody, it’s not meant to be part of the official story. DBS isn’t a parody, it’s a serious sequel to DB.

My knowledge of DB games is quite limited and I don’t know anything about Dragon Ball Online.
by Surai
Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

I don't see any canon established in there. It's also missing source for the "DBS is canon because Toriyama decided it was" and the supposed statement of canonicity in "stating said thing is canon". He said DBGT is a side story of the original Dragon Ball, it’s pretty clear. Now I see where you’re ...
by Surai
Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Grimlock wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:25 pm
Surai wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:08 pm
DBS is canon because Toriyama decided it was (...) DBGT is not canon because he decided it wasn’t
Source?
Surai wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:08 pm
Approving =/= stating said thing is canon.
I would like to see said statement, if you don't mind.
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations ... ama-intro/
by Surai
Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

I'm going to go with VegettoEX here. Disagreement with how power levels are supposed to affect a character's performance does not constitute to an error, especially when interpretation of PLs to a character's feats will vary from user to user. Furthermore, that blog post is as VegettoEX says, poorl...
by Surai
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

The blog just gave some informations that come from the Daizenshuus. I don’t think that discrediting this blog just to invalidate the errors that have been pointed is the right approach. Unless you can prove their infos are inaccurate, of course. Introducing a new information is a problem, as it doe...
by Surai
Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Yes, I figured that out after further investigation. The Japanese version clearly refers to Vegeto’s strength not changing when turned into a candy, the French translators thought it meant his strength doesn’t increase when he turns Super Saiyan. And the same word is used for "shape" and "form" in ...
by Surai
Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Page 98. I’m French so I have the French version of the book, I don’t know what the English version says but here’s the exact sentence : "À partir de sa forme initiale il peut se transformer en Super Saiyen, mais il n’acquiert pas plus de puissance pour autant." Which basically means he can turn SS...
by Surai
Wed Dec 25, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Except we've seen that the Potara fusion can be undone prematurely if the fusion's strength is too great (i.e. the case with Vegetto during his fight with Zamasu), while the same didn't seem to be the case with Gogeta, so there's that trade off. I doubt it’s an issue related to Potara fusion, I thi...
by Surai
Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:02 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

No, as in nothing to do with power as far as the two producing equally powerful fighters. It does address power, but just that the two techniques are the Z Senshi's "strongest weapons" and equally dependable. Hum I don’t know, seems far fetched to me. Plus the two techniques are not equally dependa...
by Surai
Wed Dec 25, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

You’ll have to provide the page or source on that because I do not recall reading that “dumb thing” anywhere in the Daizenshuu 7. As for the entry on Potara fusion> Fusion dance, Herms’ tweet which I linked has the source. Daizenshuus are the most reliable sources there are for pre-BoG era after th...
by Surai
Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:09 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

Rakurai wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:10 pm
Daizenshuu 7 confirmed Potara earring as producing a stronger fusion than the dance as well.
Daizenshuu books aren’t reliable, they say a lot of dumb things (like Base Vegeto being as strong as SSJ Vegeto, which is not even the dumbest thing I’ve read). So they can’t really "confirm" anything.
by Surai
Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

funrush wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:39 pm
It used to be that Potara fusions were significantly stronger than the dance fusions,
Again, that’s not really what was stated. It’s just how fans interpreted Ro Kaioshin’s sentence. And Vegeto being more popular than Gogeta probably played a part in this interpretation.
by Surai
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?
Replies: 113
Views: 3725

Re: Is There Any Difference In Power Between Vegetto & Gogeta Anymore?

I originally thought Vegetto was more powerful but the Broly arc put a damper on that. Not really. Goku and Vegeta were much stronger in Broly movie than they were against Black Goku and Zamasu. That being said, there’s never been any proof that Vegeto is stronger than Gogeta. Ro Kaioshin never spe...
by Surai
Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why didn't anyone make sure Son Gohan kept training?
Replies: 25
Views: 1390

Re: Why didn't Anyone Made Sure Son Gohan Kept Training?

Why is everyone saying Gohan "doesn't like to train" or "he never wanted to be a fighter. " That was forced upon him by Chi Chi. To answer the question though it's because of plot. Gohan keeping up with his train In case something like that does happen makes sense. He is the strongest. Sure they ha...