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by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:54 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

1. I won't back up, you're flat out wrong. A draft isn't planning, it's doing. It is by its nature not a plan. 2. My brother is Don Watkins. He writes about philosophy and politics and his first novel will be published next year (I think). just that they didn't have a clear plan leading to that end...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:33 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

I was being facetious. You made a ridiculous claim, I'm calling it out. A plan is a representation of something, but a draft is not that. It is the thing. It's not usually the end product in its most polished form, but it's the act of doing it. It's not planning. There's a difference between outlin...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:10 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

A draft is an outline I would say This is verifiably incorrect. An outline is a planning tool to help see the essay or story, etc. at a glance. By it's nature, it's much shorter. Even the word implies they aren't the same. A draft accomplishes those things. A writer might set out to write a draft t...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:09 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

A draft is an outline I would say This is verifiably incorrect. An outline is a planning tool to help see the essay or story, etc. at a glance. By it's nature, it's much shorter. Even the word implies they aren't the same. A draft accomplishes those things. A writer might set out to write a draft t...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:07 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

I was being facetious. You made a ridiculous claim, I'm calling it out. A plan is a representation of something, but a draft is not that. It is the thing. It's not usually the end product in its most polished form, but it's the act of doing it. It's not planning. I just fail to comprehend how a wri...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

I was being facetious. You made a ridiculous claim, I'm calling it out. A plan is a representation of something, but a draft is not that. It is the thing. It's not usually the end product in its most polished form, but it's the act of doing it. It's not planning. I just fail to comprehend how a wri...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:55 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

The Simpsons was a satire, but they still told stories. I know what the movie was but making a point isn't entertaining by itself. Do you not see notes as planning? Drafts are writing....but it's not exclusionary. A note is a shorthand. and nowhere in any of my replies do I even imply that I not se...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:43 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

So what do they do? Just write and go "welp Jessie is in it now" no. they go "Alright back to our notes, I think we can make this work lets see what we should do..." That's not what happened. You claimed Lord of the Rings was planned even though that's verifiably false. I don't trust your account o...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

Drafts aren't planning, they are the doing. Plans are what you do ahead of time. No, the outlines are the blueprints. Blueprints are used as a cheap way to see what a building will look like before the actual expensive and time consuming part of the process commences, but sometimes plans change eve...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

However, just because plans change doesn't mean there were no plans. And it wasn't the plan that made it good. It was the ability to pivot. Writers don't need plans, they just need time. That's the biggest value in an outline, it saves time. It can definitely help to focus, but it's biggest value i...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:26 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

And drafts aren't planning, they are writing. Drafts aren't planning. They are. Drafts are a writer, writing out their story and thinking of the ideas along the way. They aren't meant to be seen because they aren't the full story/final product. They are the author going in with their ideas and work...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

That wasn't helpful and no, I didn't know what you meant. I've never heard anyone use the term "story based story". A draft isn't planning, that's doing. Of course he had a first draft. Every story that has ever existed has a first draft. That's not what is meant by planning as opposed to pantsing....
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:56 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

GT was not a hermetically sealed show nor should it be. The ending isn't just GT's ending. It's the ending of all three shows. Playing schmaltzy music doesn't make the ending work. In fact playing overly sentimental music can often have the opposite effect. And no, having a plan isn't necessary to ...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

Are you claiming that as a negative? Yes I would say having no story and simply the final episode is a negative. There were no Shadow Dragons, no Baby, no anything just the last episode with Goku Jr. and what not. They didn't have the story planned out but neither did Toriyama. Having just an endin...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

I have no idea what this means. What does planning the ending have to do with the issue. You make it sound like that's not a positive. They had an idea of where they wanted the story to go. Many stories generally do. I disagree that the manga's ending feels like any other chapter. It feels like an ...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

He was always independent. Three different beings created their own dragon but they didn't control them. When was Shen Long an agent of Dende or Kami? Care to explain why you think the ending doesn't feel earned? The GT ending is great but not because of GT. The ending works regardless of that seri...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:38 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35419
Views: 1835392

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:32 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

Shenlong operating independently at the end is a return to his pre-Piccolo writing, when he was his own god unconnected to any higher beings. I agree about GT's ending being too sentimental, because it doesn't feel earned. It works well enough on its own, but if you try and connect DB and DBZ to it...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:27 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 722

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

Also, can Dende just deactivate the Dragon Balls? Kami had talked about being disappointed by humanity and how the Dragon Balls were used, so why didn't he just deactivate them? They are connected but only in the same way Piccolo and Kami were connected. They're connected metaphysically, but they t...
by Mad Swami
Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 13007
Views: 810752

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

It's interesting to think about but stories aren't just about getting to the end as expediently as possible, it's about the twists and turns along the way and the choices the characters make. I'm not saying it's the case here, but too often I see people claim stuff like this is bad writing. There's...