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by BagetaSama
Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 2335

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

There is EVERY indication Fused Zamasu was weaker than Vegetto at the time, following his power-up, Vegetto did not take a single hit and knocked Zamasu around easily, like hitting him into that building etc. This is false. Vegetto has scratches on him when he teleports to hit Fused Zamasu in the f...
by BagetaSama
Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 2335

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

Except for the fact that it is not just the precedent, it is the rule. It is an established fact in the narrative that bulking yourself up increases your strength but diminishes your speed so much that it is not worth it. That was literally a rule stated in the Cell arc and there is no reason to be...
by BagetaSama
Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 2335

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

Zamasu literally bulked himself up, already in the Cell arc that was acknowledged as a mistake, because even if it increased your power, it also made you much slower. Trunks did that, Perfect Cell did that, Zamasu did that, they all got power, and they were all much slower. You can tell that Zamasu...
by BagetaSama
Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:25 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 2335

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

Vegetto especially says Zamasu can't keep up with his speed. ....AKA he says that he is faster. This does not mean Zamasu got slower. Even if he did, Vegetto is much stronger, so if MZ lost speed in favor of strength and was STILL weaker, it shows how big the gap is. Zamasu literally bulked himself...
by BagetaSama
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33848
Views: 2155200

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Confirmed by official previews. Okay what are you talking about? Care to link it or something? Prior to Goku achieveing Ultra Instinct -Sign-, Frieza and Goku were tied for the No. 1 spot on Team Universe 7 in terms of power. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGmpsLXVwAIcJBH.jpg That's ridiculous. What i...
by BagetaSama
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 2335

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

No he doesn't. He just talks about being faster, which he is, upon releasing his full-power. Vegetto especially says Zamasu can't keep up with his speed. ....AKA he says that he is faster. This does not mean Zamasu got slower. Even if he did, Vegetto is much stronger, so if MZ lost speed in favor o...
by BagetaSama
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 2335

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

He doesn't. He is shown in a stalemate with Fused Zamasu, needs to dodge some of his attacks, is pushed back by one of his ki blasts, and is overpowered at one point. Not after the aforementioned Power-up sequence by Vegetto. He never gets overpowered, the best Zamasu does is he clashes with a fist...
by BagetaSama
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:05 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33848
Views: 2155200

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

ZombieVito wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:56 am
BagetaSama wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:33 am
....Why would Vegeta be weaker than Golden Freeza?
Confirmed by official previews.
Okay what are you talking about? Care to link it or something?
by BagetaSama
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:35 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 2335

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

It's a pretty good list. There is some thought put into it. One main remark/question: why would Merged Zamasu have been that much weaker than Blue Vegito? In the manga he felt way more superior. In the anime it felt like Merged Zamasu could actually somehow keep up. If you'd take into account Black...
by BagetaSama
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33848
Views: 2155200

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The narrator said Gohan rivaled Blue Goku so that puts him anywhere between 80-100% of Goku. Me personally, I put him at 80 since him and 17 failed to do anything to Toppo. The question is whether Toppo is relative to SSBKK or just SSB, because the Exhibition Match seems to suggest that, and Vegeta...
by BagetaSama
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Top 30 (anime only)
Replies: 50
Views: 2335

Re: Top 30 (anime only)

It's a pretty good list. There is some thought put into it. One main remark/question: why would Merged Zamasu have been that much weaker than Blue Vegito? In the manga he felt way more superior. In the anime it felt like Merged Zamasu could actually somehow keep up. If you'd take into account Black...
by BagetaSama
Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33848
Views: 2155200

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The narrator said Gohan rivaled Blue Goku so that puts him anywhere between 80-100% of Goku. Me personally, I put him at 80 since him and 17 failed to do anything to Toppo. The question is whether Toppo is relative to SSBKK or just SSB, because the Exhibition Match seems to suggest that, and Vegeta...
by BagetaSama
Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33848
Views: 2155200

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I see everyone is talking about power levels of Humans vs Frieza and so on. Here is my too sense. Please correct me on errors it will help with my upcomming project. I do not believe any base Saiyan or human can beat Frieza. I believe in saiyans never reach hundred million in base let alone one hun...
by BagetaSama
Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Will SSBKK and SSGE make a return in the anime adaption of the manga?
Replies: 15
Views: 1489

Re: Will SSBKK and SSGE make a return in the anime adaption of the manga?

What makes you think the anime will become an adaptation of the manga?
by BagetaSama
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:41 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33848
Views: 2155200

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

How is that possible? SS Broly was on par with SS Gogeta, he can't be that high. What makes you think SSJ Gogeta is not also on that level? Because he has 4 more transformations left. Nothing indicates that Blue Gogeta is hundreds of times stronger than Beerus. ......why would he need to be hundred...
by BagetaSama
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:40 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Do you actually believe that we are currently in some second Dragon Ball golden age?
Replies: 35
Views: 2081

Re: Do you actually believe that we are currently in some second Dragon Ball golden age?

I mean yeah of course. By essentially any metric, Dragon Ball has become dramatically more popular since Super came out, and is about as popular now as it has ever been. Surely that could be described as a "revival."
by BagetaSama
Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33848
Views: 2155200

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

ZombieVito wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 pm
Koitsukai wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:20 pm
I'd say Hakaishin Toppo, SS Broly, Zamasu and Vegito Blue are somewhat in the same realm.
How is that possible? SS Broly was on par with SS Gogeta, he can't be that high.
What makes you think SSJ Gogeta is not also on that level?
by BagetaSama
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:50 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How did Gohan get that much weaker between Z and Super?
Replies: 32
Views: 2923

Re: How did Gohan get that much weaker between Z and Super?

He went from kicked Super Buu’s ass in base form to being forced into Super Saiyan by someone only marginally stronger than Captain Ginyu, and even then 1st Form Frieza recked him. Like damn 4 years of slacking can set you back 2 sagas of power ups and training? except he didn't lose to somebody ma...