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by Terra-jin
Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: About time travel mechanics
Replies: 24
Views: 1183

Re: About time travel mechanics

Holy shit I love it when there's an in universe explanation. That makes sense. I think it's plausable for the notes not to have contained every little detail and potential tweak like that. Actually, since the anime ends up having Trunks and company being forced to use Cell's time machine, I'm going...
by Terra-jin
Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: About time travel mechanics
Replies: 24
Views: 1183

About time travel mechanics

This is a favourite topic of mine, nerdy as it is. How does time travel work in Dragonball? How does it work exactly ? It's well known that Dragonball works with multiple timelines that are a lot like parallel worlds or dimensions. If you go to the past, you create a new timeline while the old one c...
by Terra-jin
Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How are they going to top Merged Zamasu?
Replies: 63
Views: 5612

Re: How are they going to top Merged Zamasu?

A villain that would start out weak, but over the course of the arc finds ways to increase his strength, or to defeat the z-senshi in sneaky ways, or succeeding in turning some of them into allies. Perhaps an Earthling, or someone of a weak, unimportant race, who has an extremely strong fighting spi...
by Terra-jin
Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

In my mind anyway there are 3 Zamasu's that we see/know about. - Zamasu that fought Goku and then later got killed by Beerus. This Zamasu basically achieved nothing, even failing to kill Gowasu. - The Zamasu from Trunks timeline. He is just Zamasu basically, the one we see all buddy-buddy with Blac...
by Terra-jin
Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

As much as I hate to admit it, supersaiyangodgogeta is correct in that Black is for all intents and purposes the present Zamasu we're all familiar with. Multiple characters have suggested this to be the case ever since Black's big revelation, not to mention the graphic essentially confirmed it alto...
by Terra-jin
Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

And the Time Rings, the gods' instrument for time-traveling, are designed to avoid paradox, while the time machine (which can go to the past) is not. They're portrayed as avoiding paradoxes, but consider this: If a Time Ring is used to go to the future, no paradox is created. When the user returns,...
by Terra-jin
Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

Yes, of course. That is why I mentioned Beerus. The mere fact that Black had a ring already made the time split up. At least that is the only reason that we get from the anime as more than "because of Beerus" is not to be concluded from that chart. They introduced the ring to add one paradoxical el...
by Terra-jin
Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:03 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

@Cetra: Trunks and Black appearing in the main timeline lead to Zamasu getting killed. Black's history has a different outcome, which means that - if we assume a deterministic flow of events - the circumstances must've been different. It cannot be exactly the same as the main timeline, because then ...
by Terra-jin
Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

If that image is official, it seems they're really going for the broken causal loop theory. Too bad, I would have preferred a proper timeline explanation, which I find much more logical and elegant. I wonder how the manga's gonna handle it.
by Terra-jin
Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33980
Views: 2595784

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

vilker wrote: Yes, but what if Trunks from A timeline went to Timeline B already created by universe 12 traveller?

That timeline was created in the past, Trunks trip didn't create it, only travelled through the way that u12 traveller left.
Great point, it clears up a lot of confusion. (Sincerely, no sarcasm)
by Terra-jin
Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

If Black is only still around because of the time ring, and he would under normal circumstances have died, then the Cell arc retroactively becomes a lot more dumb. During the 10 day wait for the Cell Games, Trunks could have returned to the future, waited for Cell, and killed him there. Then, Perfe...
by Terra-jin
Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

A timeline is a 4D entity, a sequence of “3D universal frames” spaced by a Plank time in 4th (time) dimension. In the 4D world everything (past, present, future) co-exists. The future already exists but from our perspective future history is fuzzy; there is default future history but is not yet sol...
by Terra-jin
Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread

I don't think we should take Black's word for it just yet. The gods have been shown to be incorrect about their assessment of time travel mechanics, so until there's further confirmation, I wouldn't accept Black's statement as necessarily correct.
by Terra-jin
Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Future" Trunks Arc Timeline & Paradox Discussion Thread
Replies: 210
Views: 15996

Re: Zamasu Timeline Paradox

What I still don't get is, if time flows the same between timelines (it logically should) then did Trunks create a new timeline when he went back in the past the second time, when the androids started attacking? Because he stated he would be back as soon as the fuel for the time machine was ready (...
by Terra-jin
Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Theories On the Origin of Black
Replies: 236
Views: 17944

Re: Theories On the Origin of Black

I'm not convinced that this arc is going to utilize every known timeline, including ones we've never seen before, to make this work. Sure, Toriyama said things would get complicated, and we did see the box with five different time rings, so I'm not saying it'd be unimaginable for them to go that ro...
by Terra-jin
Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can anyone explain this paradox? | Theorists I summon you!
Replies: 30
Views: 2081

Re: Can anyone explain this paradox? | Theorists I summon you!

What's the unseen timeline? It's one of the four commonly agreed upon alternate timelines. The Trunks that was killed by Imperfect Cell had to have visited a different past than the main timeline that our Trunks went to. This is that timeline. There is no footage of it, and all we know of it is tha...
by Terra-jin
Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Can anyone explain this paradox? | Theorists I summon you!
Replies: 30
Views: 2081

Re: Can anyone explain this paradox? | Theorists I summon you!

I think it's in good hands. They still have two other alternate timelines to play with (Cell's future and the unseen timeline), so who knows! How cool it would be if they finally show something from the unseen timeline! :D
by Terra-jin
Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:52 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: More confusion about the forms of Buu
Replies: 2
Views: 553

Re: More confusion about the forms of Buu

I agree mostly with rereboy. Good Fat Buu & Evil Thin Buu share a spiritual connection à la Kami & Piccolo. Through this link, Evil Thin Buu still has access to the Kaioshin's influence. When that link was severed, Kid Buu appeared, because there was no more link between him and the Kaioshin as ther...
by Terra-jin
Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!
Replies: 195
Views: 7884

Re: Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

If the dominance of Dai Kaioshin meant a restriction of Buu's power, where do you put Kid Buu's power? The general consensus seems to be that he's not as strong as Super Buu. I would agree that the difference between Fat Buu's and Super Buu's power is not that astronomical and that Fat Buu is still ...
by Terra-jin
Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The mental state of a SSJ = Oozaru?
Replies: 3
Views: 426

Re: The mental state of a SSJ = Oozaru?

Since Gokuu was emphasised to have lost a good sense of reason against Freeza Hmmm... Goku always did seem quite reasonable through the whole thing. If anything, I'd say Goku's motives became more focused and deliberate. He made a conscious choice to face Freeza's 100% alone, and knew when to end t...