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by DBZGTKOSDH
Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1390413

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Oh gosh. What do you even say to someone who makes these kinds of statements? What are you talking about? This has been established in the original manga, and the anime made it even more obvious. Base Vegetto is stronger than Gotenks Boo, and close to Gohan Boo. There is no reason for the boost to ...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1390413

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Lmfao did i just read that right?! Do you seriously have SSJ Blue Vegetto ABOVE the Grand Priest!??? SSB Vegetto is thousands times stronger than SSB Goku & Vegeta. I haven't seen anything so far that makes the Daishinkai thousands of times stronger than Goku or any of the gods, so until we learn s...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1390413

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Lmfao did i just read that right?! Do you seriously have SSJ Blue Vegetto ABOVE the Grand Priest!??? SSB Vegetto is thousands times stronger than SSB Goku & Vegeta. I haven't seen anything so far that makes the Daishinkai thousands of times stronger than Goku or any of the gods, so until we learn s...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1390413

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So, this is my ranking so far for the god level fighters in the movies & manga continuity (I ignore the BoG retelling because it doesn't change anything important in the first place, and the movies give us more): Blue Vegetto Daishinkai Angels - 15 Hakaishins - 10 Perfect SSB Goku | Perfect SSB Vege...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30032
Views: 1953867

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Pannaliciour wrote:What if 17 and freeza is from Toei? Then we won't have to wait that long!
It was already said by a producer (I think) that bringing #17 back & making him stronger was all from Toriyama.
by DBZGTKOSDH
Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30032
Views: 1953867

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

What are you talking about? In the movies Goku could do some damage to Beerus. In the manga he had no chance at all. The fight was longer in the movies, and Beerus wasn't using 70% of his power in the whole fight, he started lower. In the manga, Beerus was just going less easy than he did in the mo...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:54 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 73718
Views: 4183952

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

I was thinking about a thing; Dragon Ball is basically the story of legendary martial artists - this means, for example, that Hit probably was never thought his techniques by anyone, he created those by himself, and these mortals fighting in the ToP are the strongest there have ever been. It would ...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30032
Views: 1953867

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I am curious to see if they introduce kaioken in the mange. We finally got SSG in the anime, maybe the manga adds something it didn't have as well The manga has been consistent with the power-scaling of the movies so far, so I hope that they'll place Kaio-ken x2-20 above Beerus in raw power, but co...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:54 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fan Works Explosion
Replies: 13474
Views: 1208528

Re: Fan Works Explosion

Do we have any fan arts with EoZ Goku using Ultra Instict?
by DBZGTKOSDH
Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:51 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ultra Instinct "Omen"
Replies: 26
Views: 8534

Re: Ultra Instinct "Omen"

To me, it appears that this is a Saiyan transformation that grants the user the ability to use Ultra Instict, like Super Saiyan God/Blue/Rose grant the user godly ki. Beerus used it in the manga, and neither his eyes changed, nor did he emmit any heat like Goku or had a terrifyingly calm ki, and the...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1390413

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

There might not be an answer that includes everything . Things could have worked well if SSGod was not reintroduced, but the Godly SS1 being randomly placed in Episode 14 still won't work. I really don't know what to say, other than maybe Slim Buu and Goku were holding back tons. This could work be...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1390413

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

To be honest, I think it's easier to chalk that SS2 Goku vs. Ultimate Gohan battle as both were starting out slow. Ultimate Gohan was using the power that would keep up with SS2 Goku. "Gohan was holding back" just doesn't stick well to me. The Earth was shaking, and they were both fighting seriousl...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1390413

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I've come to the conclusion that US arc Goku & Future Trunks post Vegeta training have achieved SS2 Full Power like Vegeta did back in BoG, based on SS2 Trunks' fight with SSR Black & SS2 Goku's fight with U. Gohan, and the fact that he has completely abandoned SS3 now. Also, at least in the anime,...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30032
Views: 1953867

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

No one said anything like that. We know exactly what moving without thinking consisted of when Whis first started talking about it. Now it seems to have been redefined into some kind of potential unlock in order to make Goku as “powerful” as Jiren. It’s been redefined as something else without them...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30074
Views: 1390413

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I've come to the conclusion that US arc Goku & Future Trunks post Vegeta training have achieved SS2 Full Power like Vegeta did back in BoG, based on SS2 Trunks' fight with SSR Black & SS2 Goku's fight with U. Gohan, and the fact that he has completely abandoned SS3 now. Also, at least in the anime, ...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30032
Views: 1953867

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I doubt half of what was in the anime will be there. We’ve already seen Beerus use the move without thinking technique in the manga and it doesn’t grant him a new form or aura, it’s a legitimate mastery of the technique and I think the manga will follow suit with it being less special and ordinary ...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30032
Views: 1953867

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I doubt half of what was in the anime will be there. We’ve already seen Beerus use the move without thinking technique in the manga and it doesn’t grant him a new form or aura, it’s a legitimate mastery of the technique and I think the manga will follow suit with it being less special and ordinary ...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Getting rid of transformations really does seem to not sit well with Toei
Replies: 68
Views: 3918

Re: Getting rid of transformations really does seem to not sit well with Toei

The whole point our mini debate what that I stated that the (re)inclusion of the golden line of Super Sayain was Toriyama's intention and not that of Toei. And I brought up what we know about what goes on behind the scenes of the anime and manga to support that claim: - All Toyotaro gets from Toriy...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSJ Multiplier Can Increase
Replies: 48
Views: 3452

Re: SSJ Multiplier Can Increase

" I don't have to prove you that you are wrong when you can't even prove me that you are right" This makes it sound like you are always right no matter what and that you will hold that stance no matter what anyone says which is why this argument is pointless. I'm not saying that I'm always right. I...
by DBZGTKOSDH
Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:24 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSJ Multiplier Can Increase
Replies: 48
Views: 3452

Re: SSJ Multiplier Can Increase

Absence of evidence isn't evidence. Is there any indication that the multiplier of the Super Saiyan forms can change through training? Except than Super Saiyan 2 in the Super manga & except when the SSG power is involved of course. And is there any evidence that there isn't. This argument goes both...