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by Hitiro
Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

Give it a rest already. Nobody states there's anything wrong with Gohan's Ki or that he's not in the his right state of mind, and when his Ki is being mentioned, Goku even establishes it hadn't gone down at all. Your fan-fiction is not evident in the story, and is not something anyone could ever co...
by Hitiro
Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:09 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Zamasu from the future?
Replies: 30
Views: 2442

Zamasu from the future?

This has been bothering me for a bit but how does Zamasu know who Goku is in Trunks timeline? The events from the main timeline should never have occurred in Trunks timeline, for obvious reasons, so Zamasu should not know who Goku is. I guess there is the possibility Goku met him after he died but w...
by Hitiro
Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

You omitted the part of the dialogue that would express the opposite of what you're trying to argue, where Piccolo makes it clear to Goku that Gohan did not inherit his warrior's heart. How Piccolo describes Gohan's mindset is typical for a child his age. Only Goku and yourself would think otherwis...
by Hitiro
Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:05 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Saiyan Saga Vegeta a "Planet Buster"?
Replies: 20
Views: 3342

Re: Is Saiyan Saga Vegeta a "Planet Buster"?

The thing is characters in Dragon ball seem to do pretty well at judging their attacks power with regards to what it will effect. At no point did Kame-sennin question whether he couldn't destroy the moon. So I would say that Goku knew it was true, being that he could also accomplish it. And so he tr...
by Hitiro
Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

If Gohan is never stated to not be in his right frame of mind, lack courage, or be sick than why would a reader ever come to this conclusion? You likely wouldn't be making this conjecture if not for a guidebook released more than a decade later; injecting something Toriyama mentioned into the story...
by Hitiro
Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

My post seems to have been lost when the site went under maintenance so I'll try and remember everything I said. You don't have to be on the offensive to be at full power. Goku had already shown us what a full power Super Saiyan constitutes; a more serious look in their eyes and the surfacing of the...
by Hitiro
Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

Gohan was trying in the beginning, hence why Cell couldn't catch him, so that shouldn't even apply then. Even when he was holding back, that was only in terms of offense, it shouldn't affect his overall Ki output which would act as his defense. Cell only used full speed in response to Gohan's elusi...
by Hitiro
Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:20 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

When Cell says that he actually catches Gohan, the scene you're referring to where he knocks Cell down occurs a while after and we don't even know if he's going all-out in speed anymore. I don't think so, when Goku was expressed to be at full power his aura appeared, therefore, the same should appl...
by Hitiro
Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:45 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SSJ3 Goku Vs Mystic Gohan-A new viewpoint.
Replies: 50
Views: 4428

Re: SSJ3 Goku Vs Mystic Gohan-A new viewpoint.

In other words: - before considering his full power - Goku can't defeat Evil Boo. - when he considers his full power - Goku can defeat Pure Boo. This is silly. Why would a character ever make a statement about not being able to defeat an opponent without considering all the power they have at their...
by Hitiro
Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:27 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

While there is a strong point to be made there, it should be noted that Cell is unimpressed by Gohan's strength while the Cell Jrs are attacking the Z Fighters, prior to Gohan ascending. Why should he be impressed? You have to remember that Trunks, Vegeta and mostly Piccolo were all doing fairly we...
by Hitiro
Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

But that wasn't even Cell at his full power, all that implies is SSJ Gohan was comparable to a significantly suppressed Perfect Cell. Goku was shown to be surprised after Vegeta tells him the reason he let himself become possessed was because of the power boost that came with Babidi's spell, which ...
by Hitiro
Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

I agree that Gohan was holding back significantly as a SSJ1 against Cell, though I'm not certain he could beat Cell without going SSJ2. But the fact that he was holding back prior to transforming is why he seemed to be so far above Cell despite SSJ2 only supposedly being 2x stronger than SSJ1. as f...
by Hitiro
Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 59
Views: 8228

Re: Why Couldn't Gohan Go Super Saiyan 2?

A regular Super Saiyan can't beat Cell. Gohan was trying to release his potential, but that doesn't mean he wasn't already a SSJ2. He wasn't at full power but he was SSJ2 already. That's debatable because Gohan, when he fought Cell, was originally trying not to fight. He was trying to spare Cell. D...
by Hitiro
Sun Aug 07, 2016 5:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: It's theory time!
Replies: 3
Views: 551

Re: It's theory time!

I don't think Goku would accept gaining some sort of super god powers. He was very reluctant to do the SSJG ritual because he didn't want to get something without having to work for it. I do think however that Goku would be fine being trained by a master that exceeds Whis.
by Hitiro
Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Exactly how much stronger does someone have to be in order to emerge unscathed from an attack?
Replies: 10
Views: 1105

Re: Exactly how much stronger does someone have to be in order to emerge unscathed from an attack?

Special techniques have been shown to be fairly effective against enemies much stronger than the fighter. With the reason being that special techniques can be charged and exceed the Ki limits of the body.
by Hitiro
Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:05 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Heaven's size in Dragon Ball
Replies: 4
Views: 1023

Re: Heaven's size in Dragon Ball

The images of Heaven are not drawn to scale I don't think. But Heaven must be extremely large, big enough to hold the population of the universe if needed. Because Dragon Ball has established that the cycle of life in the universe is one based off of reincarnation. If, for whatever reason, the livin...
by Hitiro
Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:39 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How many Dragon Ball hunts are there?
Replies: 12
Views: 830

Re: How many Dragon Ball hunts are there?

Daisetsu wrote:NON-CANON?

[*]** North Kaio uses the Namekian balls to restore his planet sometime after Buu's defeat and before Beerus shows up.
I thought Kaio restored his planet using his Kaio powers. Where is it said that he used the Namekian dragon balls?
by Hitiro
Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:30 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Kuririn wasn't dumb
Replies: 98
Views: 5417

Re: Kuririn wasn't dumb

Cell isn't a machine, he's an organism. His DNA is his programming, and it's already set. DNA can't be reprogrammed at that stage. I'd like to point out that in the anime, at least, Cell was taught to kill Goku via a computer through suggestion. It wasn't programmed into him in the traditional sens...
by Hitiro
Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:30 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: I want YOUR opinion of the Two-Base Theory
Replies: 196
Views: 13833

Re: I want YOUR opinion of the Two-Base Theory

We know that Trunks fought Dabra not along ago because he had his current design when he did it, also he barely unlocked SS2. There's simply no way he's God level, the power scaling in the series is just inconsistent and the two-base theory is needed. Whis and Beerus also complimented SS3 Goku, so ...
by Hitiro
Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:44 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: I want YOUR opinion of the Two-Base Theory
Replies: 196
Views: 13833

Re: I want YOUR opinion of the Two-Base Theory

This is only an issue if you think that "God Ki Power" (Goku and Vegeta using the power of their God Ki) is inseparable from "God Ki Nature" (the fact that God Ki can't be sensed by non-Gods). DB Super episode 13 had everyone suddenly start sensing Goku's ki again, meaning that his SSJG had timed o...