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by Hitiro
Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:43 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is Rageta and its power?
Replies: 19
Views: 2257

Re: What is Rageta and its power?

Well, something has to give here. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you don't believe KK10XSSB is literally ten times SSB, or you think Rageta wasn't close to 10% Beerus. There's really no other option, unless you want SSG to be weaker than Rageta, which goes against all common sense ...
by Hitiro
Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:34 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: theory: 10xkk ssjb is not 10x
Replies: 29
Views: 2314

Re: theory: 10xkk ssjb is not 10x

why would they discard ssj2 if they can train to become 2x stronger and get another 2x on top of it? that monaka should be at least 10% of beerus otherwise goku would be disappointed. I think the general thought process is that they shouldn't be becoming complacent with the fact that if they are st...
by Hitiro
Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: theory: 10xkk ssjb is not 10x
Replies: 29
Views: 2314

Re: theory: 10xkk ssjb is not 10x

isn't it confirmed that ssj2 and 3 are not relevant anymore to goku and vegeta? ok,lets say that hit was really hurt by a 50x weaker opponent because he was trying to catch a bug without killing it. what about goku vs "monaka"? Them being irrelevant doesn't mean that their strength has changed thou...
by Hitiro
Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: theory: 10xkk ssjb is not 10x
Replies: 29
Views: 2314

Re: theory: 10xkk ssjb is not 10x

at least it is confirmed with ssj2 and 3,they don't have x2 and x8 now. with normal ssj,i can't be sure,but base goku vs hit implies goku is not 50x weaker than his ssj form. How is it confirmed? Can you give me an example? I don't think the Base Goku vs Hit actually shows this because you have to ...
by Hitiro
Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:23 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: theory: 10xkk ssjb is not 10x
Replies: 29
Views: 2314

Re: theory: 10xkk ssjb is not 10x

dragonballer wrote:since god ki messed up with ssj "static" multipliers,why would kaioken stay the same?
Where is the proof that God Ki messed up the SSJ static multipliers?
by Hitiro
Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is Rageta and its power?
Replies: 19
Views: 2257

Re: What is Rageta and its power?

I also usually use a basis of a 25% difference between characters to completely dominate others. I would also put Rage Vegeta at around 7.5%, honestly going from the fact that Beerus was pushed to using 10% of his power I can't imagine the SSJB form being stronger than SSJG which is supposed to be s...
by Hitiro
Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Super Saiyan Kid Goku
Replies: 20
Views: 1578

Re: Super Saiyan Kid Goku

I think that the English dub put an interesting twist on Goku first becoming SSJ. Kame-sennin tells the others that he feels Goku has obtained something extraordinary and that right now, with this unprecedented power, he is struggling to hold on to who he is. It would be interesting if Goku went SSJ...
by Hitiro
Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So are they God Level now or not?
Replies: 6
Views: 1303

Re: So are they God Level now or not?

Given the facts from the story so far it's highly unlikely that Goku and Vegeta are God level in their base of SSJ forms. The reasons for this are: -Beerus required 10% of his power to take out Rage Vegeta. -SSJGod Goku "is"/"should be" more powerful than Rage Vegeta otherwise why would Beerus be en...
by Hitiro
Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

It is not stated that he kept it after the fight. I don't know why you keep saying this. And again, him training does not necessarily mean he kept the strength. Because the Godly strength may have faded while he was training. A lot of stories do this sort of thing. The reason to assume he lost it is...
by Hitiro
Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

there are tons of statements that say he absorbed the power, none that he decreased in power but again we will have to agree to disagree you seem to agree with me anyway, that in their base forms they are vastly stronger than almost everyone who appeared in z, i don`t know where base Vegito is thou...
by Hitiro
Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

poor use of statements again and since when is herms the final authority? many statements show he surpassed SSG that is all and it is clear you are right why did Beerus not use rage vegeta as the bar, but when has super had consistent logic? also the many statements quoted to you clearly show Goku ...
by Hitiro
Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:35 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

Episode 15 Context: Vegeta stands out in the middle of nowhere, reflecting on Goku's fight with Beerus. a few months later Vegeta: "He surpassed it. Super Saiyan God. The level of gods." Significance: Both Vegeta and the narrator mention that Goku has "surpassed the level of (the) god(s)" (神の域を超えた/...
by Hitiro
Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

1) They did not get weaker , it was stated he kept the full power and i won`t entertain theory's that have no value or evidence or logical reasoning behind them 2) again this has no value 1) we don`t know where Rage Vegeta or Beerus are so 10% of Beerus means nothing 3) no it is not incorrect, "the...
by Hitiro
Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

thank you for breaking it down, it makes it much easier for me to reply and not go through chunks of text which i find hard personally 1) no there is absolutely no reason Goku would power down, it was stated many times over he kept the power 2) Not really we don`t know where Beerus is in terms of p...
by Hitiro
Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:34 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

Would you stop quoting every single line please and make it smaller and number the points 1) Goku never lost any power so SSJ=SSG confrimed in episode 13 and episode 14 when beerus says "so this is the power of super sayain God" indicating he was stonger than ever and goku saying he did not feel he...
by Hitiro
Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:29 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is teleportation as fast as light in the anime?
Replies: 10
Views: 1023

Re: Is instant transmission as fast as light in the anime ?

So whether he's teleporting across the room or across the universe, it always takes the same amount of time, but there is a delay. I guess that makes sense. Well, there's the fact that he also has to scan for the Ki too. So it may not take the same amount of time. I guess it depends on how far he c...
by Hitiro
Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:25 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who is older: Pan or Bra?
Replies: 39
Views: 3802

Re: Who is older: Pan or Bra?

Look, despite what you say, it is armour and it does provide protection, however little that may be. It serves a function. It provides the same protection as underwear, only more resistant. If you want to call that an outfit that prioritizes protection, which is what an armored outfit is, be my gue...
by Hitiro
Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:44 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who is older: Pan or Bra?
Replies: 39
Views: 3802

Re: Who is older: Pan or Bra?

What are you on about? She is clearly wearing armour. Armour does serve a purpose. She is wearing a bra with shoulder pads and panties. Even if they were made out of Katchin, those clothes would basically just be really resistant underwear, not an actual armored outfit that prioritized protection. ...
by Hitiro
Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

i am not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing if you keep replying just for the sake of arguing i won`t reply again, you say you don`t subscribe to God ki in thier base forms yet you say the fact that Goku did not turn ssj2 or 3 proves she is above Beerus yet Goku in the last episode tur...
by Hitiro
Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki
Replies: 30
Views: 3410

Re: Goku and Vegeta don`t have to use god ki

By the way, I don't know where you got your translation for when Vegeta says "Is this what they call God Ki?" because Ken Xyro's translation says something entirely different. http://i.imgur.com/oJOyybQ.png 1) Goku himself said he did not feel he had gotten any weaker and Beerus indicated he still h...