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by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

That means on the surface, but when Goku went god they couldn't sense his ki cause it was not seeping out. Showing that SSJ and the god forms are not the same. "Seeping Ki out" only happens during Golden Freeza saga, way after Goku achieved Super Saiyan God for the first time. It has nothing to do ...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30232
Views: 1422175

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

^TOEI and Toyo already said they do not change up Toriyama's main plot. Adding superficial mechanics to forms doesn't change the story narrative about Beerus's intrigue or character themes from Toriyama. ^Toriyama's statement is definitely relevant cause BoG is what continues Dragonball and began S...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

None of this "Is SSJ Forms Connected to God" debate really matters anyway if my Hypothesis from before has any weight to it. Remember, if Goku's body was just jumping to SSJ3 because it took less energy to stay in, then the next logical step would be to determine whether or not SSJ God consumes mor...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30232
Views: 1422175

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

^TOEI and Toyo already said they do not change up Toriyama's main plot. Adding superficial mechanics to forms doesn't change the story narrative about Beerus's intrigue or character themes from Toriyama. ^Toriyama's statement is definitely relevant cause BoG is what continues Dragonball and began Su...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Yeah what you just screen capped is not even remotely the same thing as claiming that BOG had the 'prevent ki from seeping out of their bodies' thing that is exclusive to the Super anime. The manga even uses a similar concept for SSB -> completed SSB, so it's clear that it can't be the case for SSG...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30232
Views: 1422175

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The way I see it, it isn't about the next villain being stronger than the last one, it is about the effort and power that the heroes will have to exert in their fight that increases. Against Beerus: Super Saiyan God Against Freeza: Super Saiyan Blue Against Hit: Blue Kaio Ken Against Zamasu: Fusion...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30232
Views: 1422175

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

^Because Jiren being stronger than Beerus, simply is headcanon. Jiren can't be stronger than Beerus when it was never stated, secondly, Toriyama's next villains are stronger than the last, therefore, Goku not knowing if Broly is stronger than Beerus, who is stronger than Jiren, can't be the weaker ...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Yeah what you just screen capped is not even remotely the same thing as claiming that BOG had the 'prevent ki from seeping out of their bodies' thing that is exclusive to the Super anime. The manga even uses a similar concept for SSB -> completed SSB, so it's clear that it can't be the case for SSG...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

No, Kaioshin and Beerus has god powers, yet doesn't transform. That is correct, Beerus (probably not Kaioshin because it was never stated the characters couldn't sense him during the 25º tournament) has god powers yet doesn't transform. As well as he possesses Ultra Instinct yet doesn't transform. ...
by Miracles
Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Incorrect, Tell that to official sources and even to Goku himself who said so. Super Saiyan god Super Saiyan is Super Saiyan god's powered up version.(...) Yes, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is a powered-up version of Super Saiyan God, but that's just a general explanation. Just like Super Saiyan 2...
by Miracles
Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30232
Views: 1422175

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

^Because Jiren being stronger than Beerus, simply is headcanon. Jiren can't be stronger than Beerus when it was never stated, secondly, Toriyama's next villains are stronger than the last, therefore, Goku not knowing if Broly is stronger than Beerus, who is stronger than Jiren, can't be the weaker o...
by Miracles
Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

In the exhibition match against Toppo, Whis stated Goku has SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3, god and blue. Goku went through those transformations in that order. So why wouldn't Goku go backwards from that? Because he willfully transformed from ss3 to a different branch of forms. He just didn't revert to base bef...
by Miracles
Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

There's Super Saiyan then god forms. God forms then super Saiyan reversed. There isn't. Super Saiyan is part of a branch of transformations, Super Saiyan God is part of another. There is no god powers in Super Saiyan There is, that's exactly what Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is/means. Incorrect, S...
by Miracles
Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:01 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

In the exhibition match against Toppo, Whis stated Goku has SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3, god and blue. Goku went through those transformations in that order. So why wouldn't Goku go backwards from that? Though in this sense he is just being coherent with itself (if it's possible to transform from Super Saiyan...
by Miracles
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

In the exhibition match against Toppo, Whis stated Goku has SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3, god and blue. Goku went through those transformations in that order. So why wouldn't Goku go backwards from that?
by Miracles
Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30191
Views: 1994353

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I don't remember if anyone posted about it (at least, I didn't see anyone talking about it), but it seems that for some reason just now an interview with Toyotaro by '' The Journal of Mickey '' (published in May) has been released. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-A73QFV1Dj9M/XUH5QnSS4aI/AAAAAAAAebs/hZoe...
by Miracles
Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30232
Views: 1422175

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Hhmmmmm, is this actually the case though? I mean, yeah he is the creator and stuff and when he says something it is usually Canon, but Toei also plays a major role in this with the producers. I mean, they don't really implement his ideas fully. Or Toriyama provides extremely rough edges on how the...
by Miracles
Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30232
Views: 1422175

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Toriyama says the next opponent is always stronger. Even if Broly fought UI Goku, that version would be stronger than the one Jiren fought from the TOP anyway. Hhmmmmm, is this actually the case though? I mean, yeah he is the creator and stuff and when he says something it is usually Canon, but Toe...
by Miracles
Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 1880
Views: 166074

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" CONTINUATION - (Non) Announcement & Discussion Thread

Guys, accept it. TOEI only announced they are doing another movie for Dragonball Super. After putting tons of effort into the Broly movie.
by Miracles
Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30232
Views: 1422175

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Toriyama says the next opponent is always stronger. Even if Broly fought UI Goku, that version would be stronger than the one Jiren fought from the TOP anyway.