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by hleV
Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

(Which must mean that Piccolo had become much weaker since the Cell Games, since he managed to block a Cell Jr. in the least). Didn't quite follow your logic there. Explain please. In Cell Games saga Piccolo was a lot stronger than normal Super Saiyan. In Buu saga Piccolo was afraid of Supreme Kai ...
by hleV
Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:04 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku vs Yakon, Power Levels in Kilis
Replies: 105
Views: 5674

Re: Goku vs Yakon, Power Levels in Kilis

Savage, you're wrong about people not getting stronger when training. Goku's purpose of training was to get stronger. And he did. Vegeta trained during 7 years between Cell and Buu and got much stronger. If Goku told Gohan that it would have been useless to spend another year in ROSAT since they had...
by hleV
Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:18 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

When Gohan went SSJ2 at World Tournament, Supreme Kai calmly said that Gohan was stronger than he had expected. Then he asked if Vegeta was going to fight alone against Pui Pui - someone that is weaker than base Vegeta. And when Yakon appeared, Gohan said something about him being pretty fast. Then ...
by hleV
Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:52 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

No amount of SSj 1 power(even with a Kamehameha) can compare to SSj 2 power. Actually... Goku rose his battle power from 400's into 900's with a Kamehameha. That is over a twice increase! Supposing the same happens when someone is at Super Saiyan then a fully charged Kamehameha gives over 2x increa...
by hleV
Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:33 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?
Replies: 50
Views: 3047

Re: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?

Neko Majin and Dr. Slump didn't happen in Dragon Ball universe, but it seems that probably everything that happenned in Dragon Ball universe, also happenned in Neko Majin and possibly Dr. Slump universes. Let's say Toriyama draws some guy talking to Goku outside the actual Dragon Ball manga - it mea...
by hleV
Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?
Replies: 50
Views: 3047

Re: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?

Neko Majin Z and Dr. Slump aren't Dragon Ball, it's just that some Dragon Ball characters are non-DB-canonically involved in it.
by hleV
Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

Rocketman wrote:Well, that just shifts the question to "Why does Gohan use his full power to stand around at the tournament but not to fight Dabura or try to blow up Buu?"
Kibito didn't restore all of Gohan's power after it's been sucked out.
by hleV
Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

SSJ Gohan had no chance of winning against Perfect Cell the way he was back then (unless, of course, he would have used his hidden potential, but that simply made him to ascend). Note that Perfect Cell only shown his full power when Gohan was already SSJ2. When Gohan in World Tournament ascended to ...
by hleV
Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:53 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?
Replies: 50
Views: 3047

Re: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?

Well, IMHO it should be canon unless the creator says the opposite. Neko Majin isn't really Dragon Ball, so even if there are DB characters, it isn't canon.
But DBO is Dragon Ball, so I guess the story can be considered as canon.
by hleV
Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:04 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: "Pure of Heart" Rule (Genki-Dama)
Replies: 8
Views: 1447

Re: "Pure of Heart" Rule (Genki-Dama)

However once he and Gohan were able to master SSJ as a normal form (after training in the ROSAT), I feel that limitation should no longer apply. That doesn't explain why Goku and Gohan's eyes still had a full-around-border in FPSSJ forms unlike in their base forms. AFAIK Toriyama stated that he dra...
by hleV
Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Goku vs Yakon, Power Levels in Kilis
Replies: 105
Views: 5674

Goku vs Yakon, Power Levels in Kilis

Stated by Babidi (or Dabura, can't remember well), that Yakon's maximum capability is 800 Kilis. Goku had 3,000 Kilis as a Super Saiyan. If we take Super Saiyan as a 50x base multiplier, was Goku only 60 Kilis in his base form? He did pretty well against a 800 Kili opponent. Did Yakon not take Goku ...
by hleV
Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:53 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?
Replies: 50
Views: 3047

Re: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?

in DBO human characters have to make a wish with the dragonballs before they are able to transform into Super Saiyans, so it doesn't say much about what someone with that amount of Saiyan blood would naturally be able to do. Yes, but maybe the wish does something what simply unlocks the ability to ...
by hleV
Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:50 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

I really doubt if Toriyama would have not shown Gohan transforming again, LOL.
by hleV
Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?
Replies: 50
Views: 3047

Anyone With Saiyan Blood Can Transform?

In Akira Toriyama's story, written for the Dragon Ball Online MMORPG, he writes that Saiyans have split around the world. Many people in age 1000 have some Saiyan blood. Does it canonically mean that it doesn't matter how much Saiyan blood a person has, he can still transform into SSJ? And females, ...
by hleV
Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:03 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: "Pure of Heart" Rule (Genki-Dama)
Replies: 8
Views: 1447

Re: "Pure of Heart" Rule (Genki-Dama)

It's true that Spirit Bomb can only be gathered by a pure-hearted person. So it's impossible for a Super Saiyan since in that form the Saiyan ain't completely pure. Vegeta, even though he's a Saiyan prince, etc., didn't really know what actually a Super Saiyan is and how it is achieved. That was sim...
by hleV
Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:49 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

The Daizenshuu made a mistake. The books aren't infallible. Why would anyone believe in everything else that is written in Daizenshuu or SEG? SEG stated that SSJ2 is a 2x multiplier of SSJ and SSJ3 is a 4x multiplier of SSJ2. Maybe that was a mistake too? Toriyama approved it, didn't he? He approve...
by hleV
Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:35 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: Earth's Special Forces
Replies: 57
Views: 8205

Earth's Special Forces

It's awesome.

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by hleV
Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:50 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

Gohan had SSJ2-like hair (spikier, standing more, single strand on the forehead unlike SSJ1's) and he also fought well against Dabura even though he was a lot weaker than in Cell Games saga. SSJ1 couldn't have done that, unless you can prove me wrong. Note that Akira Toriyama drawn sparks when Veget...
by hleV
Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:05 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Gohan vs. Dabura
Replies: 339
Views: 18510

Re: Gohan vs. Dabura

To be honest, I am sure that Gohan was SSJ2 against Dabura (and Fat Buu). Gohan shown his ability to transform into SSJ2 in World Tournament. Goku said that Dabura is about equal to Cell (not sure Perfect or Super Perfect form), and later he admitted to have underestimated Dabura. Gohan had SSJ2-lik...