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by Jack Bz
Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: SSJ God was supposed to be “a being that surpasses everything”
Replies: 88
Views: 2075

Re: SSJ God was supposed to be “a being that surpasses everything.”

This could have been avoided if ssj god was treated like Beerus and was kept as a milestone the characters have to reach after getting a taste of it. That has to be the biggest power retcon in all of dragon ball, having ssj god going from about 60% of Beerus' power to less than 1% of it. I don't th...
by Jack Bz
Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:26 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32522
Views: 1882587

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Saiyan beyond god is 100% never mentioned in the manga. It's never mentioned that Goku absorbed the power of ssj god during the Beerus fight, therefore it didn't happen. If you had only read the dbs manga and not watched the anime or films, nothing would indicate it. Of course the RoF promotional ma...
by Jack Bz
Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:05 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: SSJ God was supposed to be “a being that surpasses everything”
Replies: 88
Views: 2075

Re: SSJ God was supposed to be “a being that surpasses everything.”

This could have been avoided if ssj god was treated like Beerus and was kept as a milestone the characters have to reach after getting a taste of it. That has to be the biggest power retcon in all of dragon ball, having ssj god going from about 60% of Beerus' power to less than 1% of it. I don't thi...
by Jack Bz
Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?
Replies: 45
Views: 1406

Re: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?

I never liked the idea that UI is a huge boost in power, but rather absolutely perfect martial arts technique. This especially paired with the manga repeatedly letting Goku know powering up isn't the way to beat Jiren in ToP, as he simply can't reach Jiren's level in this situation. To me it makes s...
by Jack Bz
Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegito Mui would beat Whis.
Replies: 13
Views: 790

Re: Vegito Mui would beat Whis.

If Goku with UI sign was about to make Merus fight seriously, then I think logically ultra instinct Goku/Vegeta fusion should be a lot stronger than whis.

However I doubt a UI fusion is something we're over going to see unless it's in heroes or something.
by Jack Bz
Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta should totally use his Forced Spirit Seperation technique on Elder Kaioshin!
Replies: 8
Views: 486

Re: Vegeta should totally use his Forced Spirit Seperation technique on Elder Kaioshin!

It seems wrong for Vegeta to be able to use his power on Piccolo to remove Kami, because that's not really a fusion as much as 2 separate halves becoming whole again. Nail though, sure.
by Jack Bz
Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
Replies: 55
Views: 1443

Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?

It is bizarre to think that ssj1 Gogeta would be more powerful than an ssj3 Gotenks considering that I'm pretty sure a hypothetical boo saga ssj3 goten would wipe the floor with a boo saga ssj Goku for example. But it also doesn't feel right for ssj Vegito to be drastically more powerful than ssj Go...
by Jack Bz
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:19 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Are the Buu Saga SSJ2's (Goku and Vegeta) much more powerful than SPC or Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan?
Replies: 21
Views: 1018

Re: Are the Buu Saga SSJ2's (Goku and Vegeta) much more powerful than SPC or Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan?

Yeah, Goku and Vegeta are stronger than cell arc Gohan, but not by a huge amount. Same tier of power.

While adult Gohan is weaker than cell arc Gohan, before he goes to confront Babidi with the supreme kai, Goku tells him that if he gets mad then no one can beat him.
by Jack Bz
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32522
Views: 1882587

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Is Vegeta actually stronger than Goku now? It seemed like Moro was clearly much stronger than Vegeta until Vegeta started to use his new technique, and that technique wouldn't do anything to Goku we can presume. And Goku and Moro seemed pretty even in strength, it's just that ultra instinct sign has...
by Jack Bz
Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:39 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 28332
Views: 2024643

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

It is hard for me looking at this page to imagine that there is even a hint of the Goku that I know in this Vegito. Convincing your own child that you're going to kill them one day, whether as a real threat or as a way to encourage them to train, I'm just not a fan. It's just child abuse.
by Jack Bz
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:36 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 28332
Views: 2024643

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

I wonder if this is going to set off something with Zen Buu
by Jack Bz
Sat May 30, 2020 9:16 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 28332
Views: 2024643

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

I mean, Goten is alive, right? That's not even a spoiler, unless I'm misremembering somewhere that implied he was dead. I hope Saligir has a really creative way that Bra is going to be defeated that will make this build up worth it. I try to ignore the pace of this thing because I generally think it...
by Jack Bz
Thu May 21, 2020 9:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Is anyone else dissapointed that Vegeta doesn’t get a new transformation?
Replies: 55
Views: 3303

Re: Is anyone else dissapointed that Vegeta doesn’t get a new transformation?

I literally can't think of anything i'd want less in this series than Vegeta to get a new form that is a new colour
by Jack Bz
Wed May 20, 2020 5:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Could All Of The ToP Contestants Take On The Hakaishin?
Replies: 39
Views: 1490

Re: Could All Of The ToP Contestants Take On The Hakaishin?

I just realized something. Whis said Goku and Vegeta could give Beerus a run for his money if they worked together. ...7 of the Destroyers working together couldn't touch Beerus. Maybe a lot of them really are weak. Was this in the manga? Yep. I'm not sure what the exact chapter was, but the exhibi...
by Jack Bz
Sun May 17, 2020 12:39 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 28332
Views: 2024643

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

That could explain this page: Yeah, that's why I don't hate on Salagir for focusing on this plot for a while...Bra was foreshadowed for a long time to be the big bad (of this "season") and there's still lots of plot points to go through. For example, Vegeta and Goku still have to reveal their own m...
by Jack Bz
Sun May 10, 2020 3:51 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 28332
Views: 2024643

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

It's really not a leap in logic for Bra to go "oh, I've thought Cell was dead before, better make sure he really is this time by taking out his nucleus". But as far as she knows, one big blast should've been enough. It was enough for Gohan, so it should've been enough for her (according to what the...
by Jack Bz
Sun May 10, 2020 12:44 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
Replies: 28332
Views: 2024643

Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Back in the original manga Cell explained to the Z fighters that his nucleus in his head needs to be destroyed for him to die. Cell has also been seemingly killed during Babidi's uprising, by a huge wide attack, only to be alive after all. Bra has made a note that she's surprised he survived. It's r...
by Jack Bz
Sat May 02, 2020 9:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Could All Of The ToP Contestants Take On The Hakaishin?
Replies: 39
Views: 1490

Re: Could All Of The ToP Contestants Take On The Hakaishin?

I think basically everyone would be complete fodder to a GoD besides Jiren and Goku, and maybe Vegeta if this is with post-yardrat training. Maybe everyone together could take out 2 or possibly 3.
by Jack Bz
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 34896
Views: 2705989

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Beerus is consistent with how he has been portrayed throughout the manga, but the irritating thing is that the ToP made it seem like there was going to be a change in that. It really really laboured the point that Beerus is a terrible GoD, and he was made distinctly aware of that himself with U7's l...
by Jack Bz
Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32522
Views: 1882587

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I always saw ultra instinct as being meant to be in somewhat of a league of its own. It's the signature technique of the angels, the currently strongest known beings in the multiverse, and Goku managed to tap into the technique for all of 2 minutes. It's portrayed as pure and complete martial arts m...