Kanzenshuu

Choosing to participate doesn't mean they have to have surpassed base Yardrat Goku. That connection doesn't make sense, there is no reason they would think that is the level they need to be at. The power Goku showed after returning from Yardrat was his Super Saiyan form. I meant base form Goku (Yad...

The Strenght Level in movie 13 would be like this: Goku SSJ3 > Hirudegarn (2nd Form) > Gotenks SSJ3 > Hirudegarn (1st Form) > Vegeta SSJ2 > Mystic Gohan > Hirudegarn (Lower Half) Toei twisted manga's logic after Boo absorved Gotenks. Toriyama himself didn't plan on Majin Buu absorptions, but in the ...

It can be a good theory, but we don't know how Super Saiyan God requirements work at all. For example, it could be impossible to do it with dead saiyans, but nothing that a plot device wouldn't fix.

Uh... you think base Goku and Vegeta are stronger than SS Trunks and Goten...? And base Saiyans > Piccolo? Post RoSaT base kids are a lot stronger than his super saiyan's counterparts, but I don't think they powered up that high to put them equal or above their parents. Though Vegeta said that we c...

It's implicit Yamcha is stronger than Goku was when he returned to Earth from Yadorat. No it's not. Gero's data didn't cover Goku's return, they stopped monitoring after they left for Namek. I don't mean Gero's data. It doesn't imply nothing at all. Any power above 40.000 would makes him wonder abo...

If I'm not wrong, Vegeta implied he would win the tournament even without Super Saiyan. I suppose he would be at least stronger than Piccolo (Cell Games). The base Saiyans never surpassed Freeza. Vegeta was just being his usual arrogant self. The base Saiyans are stronger than #18, since Goku & Veg...

If Gohan (Pre 25th BT) and Goten (Pre 25th BT) had the same battle power, so Post RoSaT Base Goten is stronger than SS Gohan (Pre 25th BT)? Is that so? These kids are too OP. To me it makes more sense that Post RoSaT Goten is as strong as Gohan (Fat Buu Saga). Then, Post RoSaT Trunks would still be ...

As Piccolo said when they fight their energy increase imensely. Then, Dr. Gero was just vislumbring his standing power, that could be equal to #19 at some point.

It's implicit Yamcha is stronger than Goku was when he returned to Earth from Yadorat. I would put him around 4.000.000. The androids are in the hundred of millions, possibly tapping the billions, a bunch of people who are in the millions wouldn't bother them. Gathering their energy would only work ...

I don't think the saiyans that performed the first Super Saiyan God actually knew the requirements. It could be an accident, like it was the first super saiyan transformation or a civil war between good and evil saiyans, the evil ones having a great advantage in power and numbers. Then, 6 remanescen...

If I'm not wrong, Vegeta implied he would win the tournament even without Super Saiyan. I suppose he would be at least stronger than Piccolo (Cell Games).

The Gohan issue is really tough. But he clearly has lost power as in his ki has atrophied IMO at least. The rage boost can definitely be a factor but isn't necessarily so. I think Gohan didn't lose power in the overall circunstance, just had a problem to bring it out. His anger was not like it was ...

Lol you're over-hyping Kanzennshuu :lol: . Most of our answers are just inference or conclusion of what the series gave us. The series gave us Gods who are just strong people. Can't change that lol. Kanzennshuu ranks are really just based on how many post you've made. Maybe, but look to where I'm f...

Dude I'm not making this complex. You are. The definition of "God" in DBZ-DB-DBGT is much different from that actually or most common definition. I understand how much god concept works on DBZ but it's seems still inappropriate for the reasons you, I and others users gave. I don't mean to complex t...

I agree that it makes more sense for Goku to be talking about Super Perfect Cell. But it is also possible (and more likely if Gohan was a SS2) that he was talking about the Perfect Cell that Goku fought. Assuming it's even possible, Goku would be comparing Dabra with a portion of Cell's true power....

You wanted one word to describe SSG. I gave you one. Vegetto supremacy forever. Oh Rocketman :lol: . I'm newbie in this forum, this not an attitude that anyone would expect from old-school members. I'm having some problems here. However, you might be kidding judging from this last quote. I apologiz...

Well, the discussion about SSG being stronger than Vegetto seems already over. On this new subject, maybe another thread when I get enough time to elaborate, I suggest just one word for describe SSG character, plus details please, not just typing aleatory posts. I know it's just DBZ. If there's one ...

TheMightyOzaru wrote:

Hugo Boss wrote:I meant Kuririn sparring with #18.

I don't see why he wouldn't spar with her assuming that was filler only.

I had a different impression in manga. There are some scans that show him training alone, but it's not impossible for him to have sparred with #18, just it's not explicit.

Rocketman wrote:Stupid.

It sounds like a YouTube's comment. Come on, you're an old-school, man. Is my question off-topic or even stupid?

A really really strong dude. Well, I mean just one word lol. At first, I thought "ultimate" or "supreme". I remember Super Saiyan levels had another name about ten years ago, like ultra, hyper and mega. So, SSG could be giga-like? You're talking about Superman, so prime is a good choice too, maybe ...