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The daiz also mentions Gohan didn't lose any power over the 7 years, only no Ssjin 2 rage boosts. So Ssjin Goten = Ssjin CG Kid Gohan in terms of power Evil Buu punching Trunks was gag... unless you actually think Trunks is now Ssjin 3 Gotenks tier... Vegeta punching Trunks was gag too, to make Tru...

Training/age means nothing in DB, plot determines power. You know, training and age are part of plot. But if you think they are not relevant to this discussion, fine. 1. Goten made Gohan sweat in a sparring match and forced him into the air. (keep in mind that Goku who was ~2x Butta/Jheese was domi...

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:The kids aren't over 8x weaker than their fathers.

I would like to see evidences supporting this claim. You mean, Goten and Trunks somehow were born in the same way that Gohan did (surpassing Goku's strenght for a moment)? This is an idea I would apply for Gotenks though.

Glad I was born in the same year as Gohan. Unfortunately my daughter will not arrive in 2014.

Base Bojack can beat any version of SS Goten. SS Gogeta can beat even SS3 Gotenks. Kibitoshin needs kaioken x10 to be a match for Pure Boo. I don't think No.17 can seriously win against Freeza with just his tongue. Maybe not even against Yamcha. Base Gogeta is weaker than SS Gotenks, but is still i...

In my scheme, since Dabra is weaker than 1st form Boo and Yakon is implied to be weaker than 1st form Cell, Pui Pui should be weaker than 1st form Freeza as well. Somewhere around 40,000 is good for Pui Pui. About Yakon, I will stick with 40,000,000, which is what we get from V-Jump. As for Dabra, I...

Mystic Gohan + Mystic Gohan (Potara Fusion) vs. SSJG Goku. Fat Buu (Pre Split) vs. Kid Buu. SS4 Gogeta vs. Wheerus. Merged God Gohan could stick between SS Vegetto and SS3 Vegetto. SSGod Goku is on SS3 Vegetto's level, imo. Supposing Gohan somehow has the same battlepower of Goku, I think Goku is s...

The whole scene was set up as a gag. Seriously, Gotenks' power-up was only SS3, imo.

I'm somewhat lost in this thread. :crazy: What about.. Pope Saga (Saint Seiya Legend of Sanctuary) vs. Lord Piccolo (Dragon Ball Evolution) Super Saiyan Trunks (EOZ) vs. East Kaioshin (Buu Arc) I have Trunks and Goten still weaker than Piccolo (Boo Arc), then Kaioshin wins. Matches Dabra wins by tur...

I think Goku was referring to fusion in general, then it might be either Vegetto or Gogeta. If Vegetto can somehow achieve Super Saiyan 3, maybe things could get a little more interesting, but I don't see the reason to not try it as Gogeta.

First point cleared. I think the guidebook compared those characters in a way it could be as obvious as possible, because Vegeta lost to Good Boo while Gotenks was pretty much equal to Evil Boo. Guess there is no need to specify the form at all. It is also possible that Gotenks' power-up doesn't fo...

SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ Gotenks (No time limit on transformations or fusion) Fat Buu w/o Pure Boo vs Dabra SS2 Goku can defeat SS Gotenks if he avoids the ghosts' technique. Fat Buu turns Dabra into chocolate again. SS Gotenks [post] vs. Super Janemba Even Fat Janemba could defeat SS Gotenks with his real...

@Hitiro (part IV) My scenario is pretty much: main villains' final forms used to be their strongest forms as well as plot devices to get close to main heros at their best forms (two situations intricated with each other). Not exactly a solid point, Boo and Goku might be exceptions to that trend. Con...

Replica at the bottom of page 3. Boo may be different from Cell and Freeza, but not because his power fluctuates though, since those two are a good example of it. As for Piccolo Boo, the plot required a twist for him to power-up, then his final form still remains Pure Boo. Take Cell for example. Th...

Whoa so there is no middle ground for SPC in that match up. He either stomps Kid Buu or gets stomped by Super Buu. I think Pure Boo would give him a hard time, but Evil Boo is still manageable. Good matches Unless Kami is in the tenkai and his original body, I don't see him winning against all thes...

If we assume Potara's bp is A's bp x B's bp (like Goku x Vegeta), then an average human would be 5x5 = 25. I will call him C.

It depends on your perspective. C could go as far as someone like Nam, imo.

By humans he could expect the same as Kibito, not exactly an average human. Maybe he knew somehow that the strongest humans in the world would show up in the Budokai. And by hundreds, I assume SS2 Gohan is hundreds of times stronger than Babidi was thinking a human would be.

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If that was directed at my comment, I would have said it regardless of the situation. If someone is going to debate a topic, then they need to debate the topic. I found his comment to be of an insulting nature, not just for the "narrow-minded" part, but for the rest of it as well. He acted like the...

Are you saying someone who acts in a tarzan-esque way is not a "total idiot"? Though, I think that's not exactly a respectful word to use to refer to his character.