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by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:10 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30971
Views: 1570840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Nice find, but most people forget that Top only says in the manga that Jiren is stronger than Belmod in terms of battle power, which would mean he could exceed several Gods of Destruction in that aspect . Since battle power obviously isn’t the only deciding factor in a fight, you can have a situatio...
by Hugo Boss
Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30971
Views: 1570840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think it’s safe to assume Jiren can overwhelm a couple of Gods of Destruction in a physical brawl, but Beerus is not the type of fighter that relies on muscle strength or battle power. On top of UI, he can easily summon stupidly powerful destructive energy. Not that Jiren can’t do that, but I don’...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30971
Views: 1570840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Beerus casually dodged several Gods of Destruction and if Sidra didn’t shield them, he would probably sweep the majority at the same time. I don’t think Jiren can do that.
by Hugo Boss
Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1731

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Yeah, but what exactly does that even mean? That Base Goku should be stronger than some abstract level that we can’t agree about? It means Base Goku is just under enraged Jiren's power. Whether Jiren is at half-strength, one-quarter strength, or one-tenth strength, Base Goku holding on against any ...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1731

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Jiren was weakened. You can’t have a good grasp of his power in that state. It doesn’t matter if Base Saiyans managed to survive his assault, Jiren is above SSBlue level in his peak condition. Only Goku Black has a strong base form. And the Saiyans were weakened too. Jiren managed to momentarily ra...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1731

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

Jiren was weakened. You can’t have a good grasp of his power in that state. It doesn’t matter if Base Saiyans managed to survive his assault, Jiren is above SSBlue level in his peak condition. Only Goku Black has a strong base form.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 33
Views: 782

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

Broli is not what you would consider a mental-healthy character. He has good moments in his current version, but still he doesn’t act in a reasonable way when he fights. If his mind were sane, we wouldn’t see that dramatically altering his appearance.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 58
Views: 1731

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

No one can give you an accurate answer for this question, since base form doesn’t see relevance in the manga. So far, it seems Base Goku is weaker than Frost, so it depends on how strong do you think Frost is, which is also unclear.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct combined?! (spoilers)
Replies: 30
Views: 3933

Re: Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct combined?! (spoilers)

But to be fair, Omen doesn't change Goku's appearence. And UI itself grants him silver hair just like the angels. So even if it's a transformation, one can still assume that no visual change is needed for Beerus (using Omen) or Whis (who already have silver hair). It does change a little bit. His e...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30971
Views: 1570840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But there's no "perfect fusion" apart for the right way to do it, as far as the franchise bothered to explain. Do it wrong and you get a botched version of the fusion fighter. The dance needs the fusees to be equals, including in strength, but the potara do not. So with Goku and Vegeta being equals...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30971
Views: 1570840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

If we agree that Broly is, at least, on par with Beerus, then yeah. Gogeta wiped the floor with Broly in Blue, and this arc happened after Broly's movie, so Vegito had to be equal to Gogeta in all forms. Honestly I don't think they gave much thought to those things, since Jiren being all casual and...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct combined?! (spoilers)
Replies: 30
Views: 3933

Re: Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct combined?! (spoilers)

Goku attains a different look when he uses Ultra Instinct probably because the state of mind of a Saiyan has direct influence on their appearance. It shouldn’t be possible to combine Super Saiyan with it, but shonen franchises like to play with these ideas.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 33
Views: 782

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

Broli has an abnormal level of anger. You can’t really compare him with the other Saiyans. The grief he felt when his father was killed probably affected even more his already twisted mind, which from his perspective is the breakpoint to become a Super Saiyan.
by Hugo Boss
Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30971
Views: 1570840

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Thani wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:20 pm
For Cumber, right?

The crazier thing about this is that, if we follow proper scaling, that makes Cumber stronger than both Broly, Gogeta and all Gods of Destruction.
If Vegetto is stronger than those people, which we don’t know yet.
by Hugo Boss
Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 6162

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:17 am
Vegeta did get a powerup during the ToP in the manga.
And on top of that, this is the same aura that he uses against Moro. So, he can use that powered-up version of SSGSS in the manga as well.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:11 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 6162

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:40 am
They also said that Broly 'might be' stronger than Beerus, but is Broly > Jiren?
There isn’t a confirmation yet, but he is hyped as the strongest enemy Goku has ever faced. It’s difficult to tell without a proper match.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 6162

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

An arm wrestling match is totally different from a real fight. So far, neither Goku nor Beerus have mastered Ultra Instinct, but it’s logical to assume Beerus is closer to that point than Goku is. So, considering everything that Goku managed in that state, it’s possible that Beerus can defeat Vermo...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 6162

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

An arm wrestling match is totally different from a real fight. So far, neither Goku nor Beerus have mastered Ultra Instinct, but it’s logical to assume Beerus is closer to that point than Goku is. So, considering everything that Goku managed in that state, it’s possible that Beerus can defeat Vermou...
by Hugo Boss
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 6162

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

We have no idea how strong Vegeta is right now. In the anime, he managed to defeat a God of Destruction level fighter, but couldn’t defeat Jiren, who is also at that level. Maybe even Jiren can’t defeat Beerus.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11321
Views: 759813

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

SS Gogeta from Dragon Ball GT would probably be stronger than SS Gogeta from Dragon Ball Super, so he might be able to rival Omega Shenron.