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Goku going to SSB vs Ribrianne means absolutely nothing. He's used blue like 7 times in this tournament even against the likes of Trio de Danger, Kunshee and Maji Kayo. Ribrianne couldn't even land a solid blow on Base Goku. I would still say SSB Vegito > Jiren. It was stated that Base form Vegito >...

How would you guys say SS Rose Goku Black after pulling out the scythe would compare current SSB Vegeta , SSB Goku and True Golden Freeza?

I don't think Freeza or Toppo are close to Sidra in power and I think he's one of the weaker hakaishins. Sidra gave the dog a small amount of energy which the dog then split into 3 pieces and hit freeza with one. True Golden Freeza had to put in a good amount of effort in order to escape it and the...

I don't think Freeza or Toppo are close to Sidra in power and I think he's one of the weaker hakaishins. Sidra gave the dog a small amount of energy which the dog then split into 3 pieces and hit freeza with one. True Golden Freeza had to put in a good amount of effort in order to escape it and then...

Jiren is on par with Goku Black saga Vegeto Blue. Meaning Goku from the time that arc ended would have to get unimaginably stronger. I'm not sure his new form will do that

I have a feeling that they are going to asspull a new form either Kale or Caulifla and I don't mean ssj3 for the latter. Some Berserker God shit or maybe Super Saiyan 4 (canon version ) for caulifla. I hope not but I get that feeling

Zamasu55 wrote:Bu... but everyone said the mortal stronger than the Hakaishin was in U4...

All it says is that Jiren is on par with GoDs not that they can't beat him. Its still possible the mortal is from u4. It doesn't require raw power to be unbeatable

Lol this certainly was out of the blue. Though I'm wondering. Does the translation mean his abilities are on par with a GoD, or is he actually in the realm of their power? It was translated as "his true power is said to be at the level of god/gods of destruction" I see. Well if that's the...

Jiren bio says he straight up rivals God/Gods of Destructions. Probably he is as strong as Belmod Lol this certainly was out of the blue. Though I'm wondering. Does the translation mean his abilities are on par with a GoD, or is he actually in the realm of their power? It was translated as "hi...

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/chara/chapter4/index.html Click on Jirens bio and it translates to Jirens power is on par/rivals God of Destruction Well, we were only ever explicitly told that a mortal that "surpasses" a God of Destruction resides in Universe 4. Jiren being EQUAL t...

Jiren bio says he straight up rivals God/Gods of Destructions. Probably he is as strong as Belmod

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/ ... index.html

Click on Jirens bio and it translates to Jirens power is on par/rivals God of Destruction

I'm really curious to see how Toppo stacks up to Goku in the manga. Will he be a match for SSB or Completed SSB?

In the manga M Zamasu thought base form Vegeto was a new transformation and said " 1 hour should be enough to take you down". 30 seconds before he was absolutely dicking down SSB Goku and Vegeta so one could imply base form vegito > SSB Goku/Vegeta. SSB Vegito absolutely toyed with M Zamas...

That was my assumption. Staying in super saiyan allowed them to get used to the form and save energy that would otherwise be used transforming however the reason they got so strong was because they sparred together for nearly a year while vegeta and trunks trained seperately

[spoiler]So goku tells caulifla he can't even go ssj1 in episode 113 but that he will "regain stamina by fighting", which makes very little sense and then apparently he is overwhelming both kale and caulifla in 114 and forces kale to go into her berserk form. So in 1 minute did goku get en...

Wow so Goku with 3 years of time chamber training + more than a year of training with Whis and Vegeta and having fights with the likes of Goku Black, Hit, M Zamasu and Toppo didn't get a whole lot stronger than he was during RoF. I guess Vegeta was right about them nearing the limits of their powers...

Does her power increase every second like Ganos or is her body kind of like the androids in that it never runs out of energy but she can only control so much. Let me elaborate on the 2nd point: Lets say her body creates an output of 100 but she can only handle say 85 which means she has to stop and ...

I have a question about Freeza's strength. Did his maximum power actually increase from the RoF arc to now or is he just able to maintain max for longer? Let me explain more : Lets say Freeza was a 10 in RoF arc but he could only maintain that level for 5 minutes, is he now say a 15 with ability to ...

1. Hits timeskip can be overpowered. SSB KKx10 goku did it and jiren is way beyond that level

2. Caulifla and Kale were stronger than cabba once they first transformed, how is that new?