Kanzenshuu

It does not matter if Kefla wanted to fight more against Goku or if he was saddened by his '' defeat '', this is not going to change what we saw in the fight and what levels of power were established (I do not understand why you keep quoting it). Kefla is a Saiyajin who was extremely excited about ...

In the manga vegeta should still be a good deal stronger than goku right? In the black arc, the only reason goku was stronger was cause he completed the blue form while vegeta still could only do the ssg to ssb switch which meant he would bleed out quicker, however due to the htc training his base ...

They were both going at each other full throttle and with the same intent. SSB KK's attack against Kelfa had everyone worried and that Kelfa had been defeated and it was stated by Roshi that fighting SS Kefla had pushed Kefla beyond what she would normally be able to do. Still, Kefla wanted to keep...

So, concerning the supplemental info with Toriyama interview...What happened to the part on the Saiyan transformations? He already gave us info on the Saiyan transformations (at least SSJ and God) but we know that there's 9 questions in the Q&A but we've only seen 3 so far. So there's 6 questio...

Rokkage wrote:Not at the moment, I had one prepared last night, but i'm using a work computer rn in my off time. So i'll be able to get you that later on in the day.

No problem.

So, concerning the supplemental info with Toriyama interview...What happened to the part on the Saiyan transformations?

And you CONTINUE to ignore the whole context of the fight just to state that Kefla SSJ> SSB KK ... ignores that Vados herself said that Goku SSB full power would be dangerous to Kefla (including saying she only had chances to win because Goku was tired ), ignores that Kefla increased his power befo...

Anger always increases exponentially the power of the Saiyans, and that is exactly what happened to Kefla, so this was not just the power of Kefla itself ... His last resort was a fully concentrated Ki attack being used as a laser (cutting). KI attacks concentrated in this way ALWAYS outweigh the p...

perucho1990 wrote:At least be happy that Piccolo will have a showstealer fight this Saturday, the equivalent of what Piccolo vs 17 was in Z.

Slow down there.

Most people love to pull up the fact that Goku stated that he wouldn't be able to carry 40 tonnes in his base form. However, what most people don't know is that while using Bukujutsu (舞空術, Flight) it's nearly impossible to lift weights, Herms: "It's worth pointing out that the Daizenshuu basic...

That's good. However, since super manga is monthly, will it too get a break from releasing? Toyotaro seems like a real workaholic when it comes to drawing so I wouldn't be surprised if he has a buffer of at least one chapter ahead of the published one. Cool. I was asking cause doesn't JUMP get a br...

We might get leaks around 14 december fue to jump fiesta. https://mobile.twitter.com/Terez27/status/933877831255363584] We’re not getting leaks from Jump Festa but announcements. According to terez,VJump might release early to conincide with jump fiesta,that's how we might get early leaks That's go...

Is that serious? So Kefla was much more than 20X stronger than Goku but could not even FOLLOW SSB KK's speed? He had this power but he was shaking with only one punch and still getting irritated? If she was being defeated, she should increase her power, but she preferred to use a distraction to att...

No, this does not mean that Kefla's energy competes with GK's in quantity, but in the ability to make Goku activate the UI. These two energies forced Goku to '' break the shell '' again and Whis underscores that. You're totally ignoring the context of the fight between Goku Blue KK and Kefla SSJ ju...

I think that you are right now that I have taken time to think about it. I just have trouble believing character statements due to it can be tricky telling if they are right or not. I have no problem with you man, and I don't like to attack other people using personal attacks. I'm glad we can agrue...

In the Android arc, Vegeta asked Bulma's dad to make him a 300X Gravity room. Dr. Briefs stated that he would weigh 18 tons.
Goku struggling with 40 tons in the Buu saga is Toriyama not caring about consistency.

Why is that so? The same energy from the bomb that overpowered Goku and awakened UI was the same amount of energy Kefla used, to TKO Goku and awaken UI again in Super Saiyan. Stated and shown SSJ Kefla=Spirit bomb > KKx20 Goku. Goku awakens in UI, then powers up IN UI, Kefla responds by powering up...

It could be an inconsistency that people shouldn't take seriously. I look at feats due to statements being usually weird to trust due to statements saying something that isn't happening. Not the case here. Why is that so? The same energy from the bomb that overpowered Goku and awakened UI was the s...

I think that UI Goku that we saw was more powerful than the previous one. But, I don't think Kelfa was near that power. She is most likely KKx20 Blue level and not any higher than that. The Genki Dama statement by Whis can be debated and probably go nowhere. How can you debate both Beerus and Whis ...

Kefla JUST incited Goku to use the UI because he was already tired. Goku barely managed to keep the Kaioken, Beerus even said that he would have to end the fight in the '' next blow ''. But Kefla can knock him down before that and he runs out of energy. Goku says '' not yet, '' he was still forcing...