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by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 3568

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

Are you claiming that as a negative? Yes I would say having no story and simply the final episode is a negative. There were no Shadow Dragons, no Baby, no anything just the last episode with Goku Jr. and what not. They didn't have the story planned out but neither did Toriyama. Having just an endin...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 3568

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

I have no idea what this means. What does planning the ending have to do with the issue. You make it sound like that's not a positive. They had an idea of where they wanted the story to go. Many stories generally do. I disagree that the manga's ending feels like any other chapter. It feels like an ...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 3568

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

He was always independent. Three different beings created their own dragon but they didn't control them. When was Shen Long an agent of Dende or Kami? Care to explain why you think the ending doesn't feel earned? The GT ending is great but not because of GT. The ending works regardless of that seri...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:38 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3477432

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Full Power Grand Supreme Kai vs Beerus
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:32 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 3568

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

Shenlong operating independently at the end is a return to his pre-Piccolo writing, when he was his own god unconnected to any higher beings. I agree about GT's ending being too sentimental, because it doesn't feel earned. It works well enough on its own, but if you try and connect DB and DBZ to it...
by Mad Swami
Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:27 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?
Replies: 55
Views: 3568

Re: If Dragonball gets a canon permanent ending again, will it be better than GT's ending?

Also, can Dende just deactivate the Dragon Balls? Kami had talked about being disappointed by humanity and how the Dragon Balls were used, so why didn't he just deactivate them? They are connected but only in the same way Piccolo and Kami were connected. They're connected metaphysically, but they t...
by Mad Swami
Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 14626
Views: 1542548

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

It's interesting to think about but stories aren't just about getting to the end as expediently as possible, it's about the twists and turns along the way and the choices the characters make. I'm not saying it's the case here, but too often I see people claim stuff like this is bad writing. There's...
by Mad Swami
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:35 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1631316

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

They are absolutely not stronger than 18 in their bases. I never said they were stronger. I agreed that they could be considered on par or close to and that view was supported by the Daizenshuu (if that matters). Trunks 'scared' 18 in Super Saiyan. Trunks' suppressed energy blast very much worried ...
by Mad Swami
Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:42 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1631316

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Can you clarify where Vegeta says he is superior to anyone in the tournament using only his base form? Because I don’t see it. The context was about how the Saiyans compared to each other. Piccolo and No.18 aren’t Saiyans. Chapter: 430 (DBZ 236), P6.5-6 Context: after Gohan asks that nobody becomes...
by Mad Swami
Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1631316

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yes, this again. So what? Can't I bring back a subject that I found worth adding my point? And no indication that a SSJ would be used in bursts. Vegeta was initially reluctant in fighting as a SSJ and Gohan in no time seemed to propose Vegeta to use it in small bursts in case he fought against some...
by Mad Swami
Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:41 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Goku after Super
Replies: 17
Views: 2156

Re: Goku after Super

Have Goku prepare Uub while pushing himself to his limit and learn to be prepared for his final battle. He should be a mentor who is shaping Uub.
by Mad Swami
Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:15 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1631316

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

1. Piccolo is absolutely stronger than Goten and Trunks as SSJ as shown when Buu goes from Buutenks to Buucolo. Granted you can say this makes him stronger than the both of them in base, but I believe that Buu would pump their power as SSJ as opposed to simply their base. Goten and Trunks were seen...
by Mad Swami
Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1631316

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Base Vegeta is very likely above Piccolo in the Boo saga, as implied by Gohan proposing the "no SSJ" rule knowing Piccolo would participate and Vegeta bragging confidence knowing that at least #18 would be there. The only thing against it are "multipliers". But if you set aside ...
by Mad Swami
Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:23 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: 28 planets?
Replies: 19
Views: 2155

Re: 28 planets?

Multiple species can live on one planet. There could be a planet with 10 intelligent species, a planet with 20 intelligent species, etc. As well, some of those species might have lost their world and were forced to join the Frieza Force. The Saiyans are an example of this. I also believe it is ment...
by Mad Swami
Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:18 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3477432

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Piccolo vs Tien, Krillin and Yamcha ( all during the end of saiyan saga, if piccolo was still a bad guy could the human trio defeat him?) Hmm. Tough call. Tien, Krillin, and Yamcha were all high 1000 but Piccolo was 3000 so he should be able to quickly dismantle them. However, with one attack Krill...
by Mad Swami
Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:07 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I think its time to admit that Toyotaro is a terrible writer.
Replies: 271
Views: 24430

Re: I think its time to admit that Toyotaro is a terrible writer.

I liked it because it showed how dangerous and unpredictable Zeno can be. Goku can't just summon him any time he gets in trouble because his solution might be to just erase the entire universe. I personally don't like Zeno much as a concept from the beginning but even without that bias, I think it'...
by Mad Swami
Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I think its time to admit that Toyotaro is a terrible writer.
Replies: 271
Views: 24430

Re: I think its time to admit that Toyotaro is a terrible writer.

Zeno exists in a place outside of time and reality, the projections are just like holograms of the different universes. I don't remember if we have that information, but if I were to guess, those Universes above the pillars are the actual Universes. That means Zeno lives in the Megaverse. Time shou...
by Mad Swami
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: I think its time to admit that Toyotaro is a terrible writer.
Replies: 271
Views: 24430

Re: I think its time to admit that Toyotaro is a terrible writer.

It's not dumb at all. His soul was always immortal as it was granted by immortality by the SUPER DRAGON BALLS, the most powerful artifacts in the entire cosmos. His soul then latched onto the nearest vessel it could find: the cosmos itself. The "background image" on the sky is simply a vi...
by Mad Swami
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 14626
Views: 1542548

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

I've read the manga once so my biggest exposure to that story is through DBZ. Even in the manga, I was never a big fan of the story, and think the shorter the better. It's an amusing schtick for the length of a good SNL sketch and that's it. Sure that's fair. I think that's reasonable. Just saying
by Mad Swami
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1631316

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Base Vegeta is very likely above Piccolo in the Boo saga, as implied by Gohan proposing the "no SSJ" rule knowing Piccolo would participate and Vegeta bragging confidence knowing that at least #18 would be there. The only thing against it are "multipliers". But if you set aside ...