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by Shintoki
Sat May 18, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: When Did The "Legendary" Super Saiyan Form Become A Joke?
Replies: 21
Views: 1856

Re: When Did The "Legendary" Super Saiyan Form Become A Joke?

Super Saiyans started to lose their signifcants when more people got the form, but at least all of the Super Saiyans in Cell/Androids Saga earned them: Vegeta trained constantly for years in harsh conditions to the point where he had a mental breakdown. Goku had 2 of his best friend murdered and th...
by Shintoki
Sat May 18, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 34236
Views: 2241334

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

comparing Ritual SSG with the regular SSG is sorta unfair? goku at the time was amped by 5 other power, some who are his equal, some who are around his level, and some who are far below his level. but all those power combined as one with his own. even beerus comments that his ''input'' was the power...
by Shintoki
Sat May 18, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: When Did The "Legendary" Super Saiyan Form Become A Joke?
Replies: 21
Views: 1856

Re: When Did The "Legendary" Super Saiyan Form Become A Joke?

when it became legends instead of a legend. or when Goku was retconned out as the first user of the golden super form.
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The logic behind the punching machine
Replies: 3
Views: 576

Re: The logic behind the punching machine

it was most likely a precaution measure to prevent unqualified people from participating in the tournament after witnessing so many superhuman levels since the start of DB. although, a flawed one. :think:
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

but it really make no sense?, cell was at a level that well match goku. how can he be stronger than goku and not cell? No. Cell was actually stronger and faster than Goku when they fought. And he was still hiding his full power. Gohan being stronger than Goku perfectly makes sense, since Gohan thou...
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

alright, please tell me where in any of those does gohan show any level higher than goku? Obviously the part that Cell said Goku overstated was that Gohan was stronger than Cell, the part that Cell admitted that was right is that Gohan is stronger than Goku. It’s really that simple. If Gohan was eq...
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 2:11 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

how is SS gohan stronger than an SS goku?. absurd, the performance comparisons between those two fights speak for themselves. Goku says Gohan was stronger than himself and Cell. Gohan reveals his SS power. Cell says Goku wasn’t completely wrong and overstated part of his implication i.e Gohan is st...
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

i'm already aware that goku intended for gohan to surpass him, and gohan did when he awakened his power (SS2) in rosat as stated by goku. what i rejects however is the idea of Base Gohan > base Goku in the cell saga. There is no reason to reject this idea. If SS Gohan is stronger than SS Goku, the ...
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

........ :eh: all cell confirmed was that goku's bluff wasn't entirely false, but cell remarks immediately that it was still an overstatement or an exaggeration if you would, to his no FP no less If you have any doubts, check the other lines in Strength Checker Thread. But this one is pretty direct...
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

That discussion has nothing to do with this thread. But anyway, Cell confirmed SS Gohan had greater battle power than SS Goku. Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P2.3-4 Context: after Gohan powers up Vegeta: “That brat…How did he get such a gigantic battle power?…This is impossible…!” Cell: “Looks like what S...
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why did Super Boo reverted to Kid Boo instead of Grey Skinny Boo after Good Boo was torn out from inside?
Replies: 61
Views: 18470

Re: Why did Super Boo reverted to Kid Boo instead of Grey Skinny Boo after Good Boo was torn out from inside?

for the sake of clarity: the term i will be using will refer to the following: impure boo is a mr boo but with other people other than dai kaioshin who themselves possess gentle hearts Pure boo should become Impure boo whenever he absorbs those who have enough gentle hearts when pure boo becomes imp...
by Shintoki
Thu May 16, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

That discussion has nothing to do with this thread. But anyway, Cell confirmed SS Gohan had greater battle power than SS Goku. Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P2.3-4 Context: after Gohan powers up Vegeta: “That brat…How did he get such a gigantic battle power?…This is impossible…!” Cell: “Looks like what S...
by Shintoki
Wed May 15, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

not sure where you got that, but they were stated to be as strong . and that only refers to his first form since tarble only knows about that one. https://i.imgur.com/aPF0FOJ.png Goku was always above gohan in the cell saga though, krillin commented that goku's MSS was above them.(without accountin...
by Shintoki
Wed May 15, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

snip 1. The "Yo! Son Goku And Friends Return" argument is pretty weak. Abo & Cado were both said to have surpassed Freeza, yet Goten & Kid Trunks (both of whom are weaker than Goku, Vegeta & Gohan) were able to stomp Abo & Cado in just their Base forms. This means that all of the Saiyans surpassed ...
by Shintoki
Wed May 15, 2019 4:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

snip snip i don't know about the kiri thing kiri, is the power unit measurement that was introduced in the boo saga by babidi. kiri is a pun for riki which means power, strength in japanese. If Goku NEVER got stronger in Base after SSj, how'd he surpass SSj2 Gohan as a SSj2? (I don't really get you...
by Shintoki
Fri May 10, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

They could be anywhere: Piccolo's coming out stronger than base Gotenks in Evil Boo's absorption and Babidi or Dabura's statement about their energy was without the characters using it for power. That’s not true. Piccolo came out stronger than base Goten and base Trunks unfused, NOT stronger than b...
by Shintoki
Thu May 09, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

to contribute to this topic. If gotenks reverted back to base form inside bootenks, either boo or the others would be noticed a considerable degrade in power. we are talking about 400x degrade in power, such thing would be noticable. so the most logical conclusion is that Gotenks as an SS3 defused ...
by Shintoki
Thu May 09, 2019 7:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

That's not a rebuttal. You didn't address the arguments in it. You can’t seriously expect anyone here to watch that video. There is nothing there you can’t type yourself. Make a properly written post. And I’m afraid that person watched a low quality version of Dragon Ball Super, since Beerus never ...
by Shintoki
Thu May 09, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Future Trunks' SSJ2 A Form That Is Unique To Him?
Replies: 24
Views: 3290

Re: Is Future Trunks' SSJ2 A Form That Is Unique To Him?

trunks SS2? is unknown what to be in TV super. could be a new undiscovered grade or something else. Toei shenanigans.
by Shintoki
Thu May 09, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga
Replies: 166
Views: 10884

Re: The base Saiyajins in the Boo saga

to contribute to this topic. If gotenks reverted back to base form inside bootenks, either boo or the others would be noticed a considerable degrade in power. we are talking about 400x degrade in power, such thing would be noticable. so the most logical conclusion is that Gotenks as an SS3 defused r...