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by theherodjl
Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:46 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: If you could go back and tweak the manga, what plot points would you foreshadow?
Replies: 17
Views: 1916

Re: If you could go back and tweak the manga, what plot points would you foreshadow?

I'd have Grandpa Gohan learn about Goku's Saiyan nature & heritage from a message left behind by Bardock & Gine in Goku's spaceship as well as the threat of Freeza & his minions. A short time later, Grandpa Gohan would only tell Roshi about this revelation leading to Roshi having more in...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So future trunks learned to use god ki right?
Replies: 10
Views: 2050

Re: So future trunks learned to use god ki right?

I don't see why not. Trunks made a few, other asspulls in both the anime & manga so him gaining God Ki is not impossible. Lavendar, Bergamo, and Basil also had God Ki IIRC.
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Question about SSJ4 and Golden Oozaru
Replies: 20
Views: 2940

Re: Question about SSJ4 and Golden Oozaru

SS4 seemed to be obtained by simply being able to think while in Oozaru form, something Goku could only do by remembering Earth, only reason why Baby wasn't able to do it was because him being in Vegeta's body interfered with that... Somehow. Either way, as far as we've seen, no one had SS and a ta...
by theherodjl
Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Question about SSJ4 and Golden Oozaru
Replies: 20
Views: 2940

Re: Question about SSJ4 and Golden Oozaru

SSJ4 is unobtainable until a Golden Oozaru is capable of regaining their heart & reason, two things that nearly all of the Saiyans of Planet Vegeta lacked. Even Vegeta at that time, the only known Saiyan able to remain in his normal mind while as an Oozaru, would not have achieve SSJ4 after goin...
by theherodjl
Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: God Ki & SS4
Replies: 38
Views: 6877

Re: God Ki & SS4

I disagree with it but your entitled to your opinion. If its any consolation, I think it would be a close one. SSJ4 is something like a dozen times stronger than SSJ3, and Full Power SSJ4 doubled Goku's strength for sure. If not for the fact that Goku & Vegeta inevitably improved after the Zama...
by theherodjl
Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:01 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can False Super Saiyan Be Enough For A Great Ape To Become Something Similar Enough To A Golden Great Ape To Obtain SS4?
Replies: 3
Views: 625

Re: Can False Super Saiyan Be Enough For A Great Ape To Become Something Similar Enough To A Golden Great Ape To Obtain

Eh, probably not. False SSJ appeared to make Goku lose control while SSJ4 is attained only after a Golden Oozaru regains their heart & reason. It would be difficult for Goku to try & achieve the pinnacle of non-God Saiyan might with an incomplete form that merely served to increase his stren...
by theherodjl
Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:39 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Can't Goten & Trunks Use SSJ3 Without Being Gotenks?
Replies: 14
Views: 4365

Re: Why Can't Goten & Trunks Use SSJ3 Without Being Gotenks?

The problem is they are too weak. Only fused together do they have a body strong enough to achieve that state. SSJ3 I can understand, but what about the SSJ Grades & SSJ2? If Gohan could use SSJ2 at age 10 then Trunks & Goten should be able to do it as well especially since they've aged som...
by theherodjl
Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:04 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: God Ki & SS4
Replies: 38
Views: 6877

Re: God Ki & SS4

A SS4 with God ki would be virtually unstoppable. Why is that exactly? SSJ3 Goku with God Ki was nearly defeated by a SSJ2 Trunks with no God Ki in the manga. He needed to briefly use SSJG, not a far cry behind SSJ4 in raw power, to beat Trunks. That's not to say that SSJ4 + God Ki is totally insig...
by theherodjl
Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:38 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is Kaioken + Ultra Instinct possible?
Replies: 5
Views: 1792

Re: Is Kaioken + Ultra Instinct possible?

When DBS sets up another arc, Goku will probably be mixing SSJ with UI to combat SSJ3/SSJG/SSJB Kefla & Ultra-Justice Jiren so why not???
by theherodjl
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would The Z Senshi Have Discovered SSJG On Their Own?
Replies: 5
Views: 723

Would The Z Senshi Have Discovered SSJG On Their Own?

The Saiyans of Earth always end up fighting some new threat every now & then so once Pan came into the picture as a SSJ, could they end up giving their combined power as SSJs(similar to DBGT) to Goku for the latest enemy, and then poof! Goku is now a SSJG? Or would Goku even need 5 SSJs to achie...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:52 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Mr. Grand Elder Guru Being A Hundred Years Younger Than In Canon...
Replies: 2
Views: 643

Re: Mr. Grand Elder Guru Being A Hundred Years Younger Than In Canon...

In the Namek Saga of Dragon Ball Z . How would having a much younger Mr. Grand Elder Guru have changed the storyline? He may not have been immobile, so close to death, and rather melancholy about everyone's chances, but he may run the risk of involving himself too much which could make him more of ...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:33 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who is the most heroic DB character in the Franchise?
Replies: 26
Views: 2940

Re: Who is the most heroic DB character in the Franchise?

Probably Future Trunks, he actually wanted to bring peace out of the goodness of his heart rather than doing it for ulterior motives like Goku & Vegeta do. He trained not to get stronger for pride or to seek new challenges, but to keep the peace no matter what. In doing so, Trunks nearly reached...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:09 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So Just How Strong Is Golden Freeza Supposed To Be When 4th Form Freeza Managed Against Jiren Well Enough?
Replies: 12
Views: 1809

Re: So Just How Strong Is Golden Freeza Supposed To Be When 4th Form Freeza Managed Against Jiren Well Enough?

Jiren was really weakened then, wasn't he? But it was only one minute later at the most, and Jiren had his morale boosted back up which in DB can mean that fading power returns to normal or even increases. Jiren was potentially stronger when he faced Freeza & Goku, but 4th form Freeza somehow d...
by theherodjl
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:45 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So Just How Strong Is Golden Freeza Supposed To Be When 4th Form Freeza Managed Against Jiren Well Enough?
Replies: 12
Views: 1809

So Just How Strong Is Golden Freeza Supposed To Be When 4th Form Freeza Managed Against Jiren Well Enough?

Note that Golden Freeza was stalemating Jiren, and even briefly held the advantage due to Jiren's dwindling stamina & self-doubt. Fast forward a minute later, Freeza is in a suppressed level of his 4th form, and he actually is able to withstand a reinvigorated Jiren's assault as well as nearly e...
by theherodjl
Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong would Gohan be if he started training since he was born vs radditz?
Replies: 6
Views: 1063

Re: How strong would Gohan be if he started training since he was born vs radditz?

Seeing an infant Gohan being trained by Goku would be an morally irresponsible, yet adorable sight. :D There's no telling how strong Gohan could have become even as an infant/toddler since his untrained, infant daughter already shows a great degree of strength capable of performing a tug of war with...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could Vegeta and Future Trunks have defeated the Androids with Super Saiyan 2?
Replies: 7
Views: 797

Re: Could Vegeta and Future Trunks have defeated the Androids with Super Saiyan 2?

If Vegeta's arm was broken then they would still get overwhelmed by the Androids once 16 got involved. Future Trunks' SSJ2 power at that point would only be around Android 17/Kamiccolo which wouldn't last against the combined might of 17 & 18, and if 16 could keep the broken-armed SSJ2 Vegeta pr...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What's The In-Universe Explanation For Why Strength Gains Were Relatively Puny Before DBS?
Replies: 10
Views: 1358

Re: What's The In-Universe Explanation For Why Strength Gains Were Relatively Puny Before DBS?

I blame it on god ki. That could actually make some sense. Freeza had past interactions with Beerus which may have left some sort of osmotic, lasting imprint upon him that didn't fully surface until he decided to start training. Vegeta also had a past encounter with Beerus which is why his power wa...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:57 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?
Replies: 344
Views: 76196

Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

I always considered that to be just another inconsistency. After all, the Genki Dama charged with nearly all of the life energy of every single person on Earth, plus all of the energy from the Z-senshi, was still too weak to stop Kid Buu without Goku being at SSJ3. Absorbing a being's entire form p...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:08 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What's The In-Universe Explanation For Why Strength Gains Were Relatively Puny Before DBS?
Replies: 10
Views: 1358

What's The In-Universe Explanation For Why Strength Gains Were Relatively Puny Before DBS?

Here are a few hypotheses off the top of my head. 1. As fighters become stronger, strength gains rise in proportion for ever-increasing base strength. 2. Fighters in proximity to more & more powerful opponents, good or bad, rise due to a synthetic effect that is physical/psychological/both. 3. I...
by theherodjl
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:25 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?
Replies: 344
Views: 76196

Re: What is the dumbest DB fan theory you have ever heard?

The idea of the Grand Priest being stronger than everyone in Universe 7 combined isn't really that unbelievable. I'd bet that at least 80% of that power comes from Whis, Beerus, Goku, Vegeta, Freeza, and Broly. So Daishinkan just has to be stronger than those 6 combined plus a bit extra. Its worth ...