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by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:46 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1986177

Re: New movie announced for December 2018!

I'm excited for what potential possibilities can be explored. Heck, I want this film to have a primary focus on the past with the Yamoshi stuff and still succeed massively despite Goku and co. not being the main character, if only to show that it is indeed possible to the doubters in this thread. No...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You know, the Tournament of Power has done a lot to help justify some of the more inconsistent fight showings throughout the anime's run by specifically pointing out the martial arts know-how behind how a fight actually works, and then translating that into the traditional power-slugfest scene. For...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You know, the Tournament of Power has done a lot to help justify some of the more inconsistent fight showings throughout the anime's run by specifically pointing out the martial arts know-how behind how a fight actually works, and then translating that into the traditional power-slugfest scene. For ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:54 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What is the problem with Goku using Super Saiyan God in the anime?
Replies: 62
Views: 6222

Re: What is the problem with Goku using Super Saiyan God in the anime?

Honestly, I feel that the anime would've been fine if they hadn't brought back SSG. They didn't do so for every other instance that Toyotaro utilized the form in his manga adaptation, and I liked how it set itself apart like that. Think about it: SSG's role can be and has been fulfilled by the other...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:17 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What is the problem with Goku using Super Saiyan God in the anime?
Replies: 62
Views: 6222

Re: What is the problem with Goku using Super Saiyan God in the anime?

I said it before, but I'll say it again: I think it's mostly the timing. Unlike regular SS, nobody expected SSG to return once SSB was introduced. But then, Toyotaro did it anyways, and thus seeded an expectation that wasn't fulfilled in the anime until long after we'd gotten so used to it not retur...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Has Vegeta been a good character as of recently? I think not.
Replies: 125
Views: 13009

Re: Has Vegeta been a good character as of recently? I think not.

^That is what I'm talking about. People treat Vegeta as though he's entirely literal and idiotic, failing to realize that he's already learned his lesson and that he's mostly just boastful and cocky like pretty much ALL proud pure-blooded Saiyans are, especially one hailing from his heritage. Goku I...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'd say that Bullza has the right idea to a degree. I also utilize both mediums to an extent when powerscaling, but not for rigid identical levels. Instead, I use them concurrently to gauge where certain characters and/or forms are meant to fit in among each other. For example, everyone disagrees on...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What is the problem with Goku using Super Saiyan God in the anime?
Replies: 62
Views: 6222

Re: What is the problem with Goku using Super Saiyan God in the anime?

I'd say people's problem with its reintroduction, at least around these parts, is the fact that it occurred so late into the anime's run. Toyotaro had reintroduced the form as early as Hit's fight with Goku in the tournament between Universes 6 and 7 in the manga. But the anime has gone on for its e...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Another episode focused on technique and combat skill than power levels, though the exchange between Vegeta and Katopesla should at least provide some decent fuel for the fire. Katopesla got over 300 times stronger than his previous self which was 300 times stronger than his normal self, but SS Vege...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:01 pm
Forum: Episode Discussion Archive
Topic: Super Episode 119 (10 December 2017)
Replies: 231
Views: 91438

Re: Super Episode 119 (10 December 2017)

A pretty inoffensive episode for me, not much more.

Some good strategy all around, though I will admit that it feels like an appetizer to the bigger events to come.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But Super Saiyan Rose Black was enormously more powerful than Super Saiyan Berserk Kale. Zamasu was about Super Saiyan 2 level so should have been similar to Super Saiyan 2 Caulifla. So Merged Zamasu should have been far more powerful than Kefla. Yet he wasn't that far above Super Saiyan Blue Goku ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Has Vegeta been a good character as of recently? I think not.
Replies: 125
Views: 13009

Re: Has Vegeta been a good character as of recently? I think not.

Honestly, I'm against most of the folks here (as usual, really). I really like Vegeta's character. He's arrogant and cocky, but shows off his softer side in nice and funny ways. He talks big, but that's just because he's EARNED his big talk thanks to the massive catching up he did to Goku in recent ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Initial Merged Zamasu isn't that strong because of Future Zamasu. Remember that when Shin and Kibito fused they were still weaker than SS2 Vegeta. And Elder Kaioshin also supposedly didn't grow much in power and potentially got WEAKER after fusing with that witch millions of years ago. Potara Fusio...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:42 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It could also be that Merged Zamasu's fusion wasn't a perfect fusion like Vegito or Kefla, so its boost wasn't too high. For example, Kibitoshin ended up being, well......... yeah. Maybe Zamasu didn't add as much to the fusion as Goku Black did because he was a Kaioshin. He made the fusion permanent...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The original Super Saiyan revealed!
Replies: 194
Views: 21151

Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

And why exactly would that be? Why would being gentle increase your S-Cells when the Saiyan biology is wired to fighting and respond to self-preservation? It sounds arbitrary. How does anger awaken that intense power when its contradicting pacifism? Calmness and gentleness aren't inherently the sam...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The original Super Saiyan revealed!
Replies: 194
Views: 21151

Re: The original Super Saiyan revealed!

I've seen people say that the whole idea of S-Cells being produced more is contradictory to the whole point of Saiyans and only a justification for Universe 6 Saiyans. I disagree. Personally, I find the notion to be somewhat poetic in a sense. Despite being immense warriors that constantly battle, t...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think what makes things much harder is that fights aren't predicated on "pure DBZ power", as I like to refer to it as. Fighters can exchange blows and pit their moves against each other irregardless of power level with some notable exceptions, and "clean hits" has replaced &quo...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Let us remember that SSB is also 50x SSG, this was confirmed scaling via Kefla once again. Well, that one also depends. Some people, including myself, are of the opinion that SS Kefla was equivalent or greater than SSB Goku with Kaio-ken. Which level, we don't know. Could be 2x, 10x, possibly even ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39973
Views: 3926738

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The way I've been looking at the whole "Potara vs. SSG" shebang is that the ritual boosted Goku far beyond what Vegito was capable of......... at the time. But by acclimating to that power and making it his own, he closed the gap. The power of SSG that he attained didn't change, but Goku d...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Goku's Stamina In Battle: A Deeper Look At Self Improvement
Replies: 26
Views: 4687

Re: Goku's Stamina In Battle: A Deeper Look At Self Improvement

This is probably why Goku is so popular with the core Japanese audience (from what I've seen and interpreted, I could be wrong). He epitomizes the two extremes that they hold so dearly in real life and in fiction: hard work and pure fun. He's childish, naive, and pretty thickheaded with regards to e...