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by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:13 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think a case can be made that Jiren has condensed his Ki to be so dense and efficient that, even if the actual amount isn't that much higher in total capacity than Goku and Vegeta's current levels, it acts as a far higher level of power. The anime notes many times how heavy and dense Jiren's physi...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:52 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12433
Views: 1728006

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

I suppose this is about the best we'll get in terms of conclusively ending DBZA as a whole.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 568452

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Honestly, I think I would've preferred if Piccolo tried to get Gohan to realize his potential, only for Gohan to instead cheer him on and let him be the one to win against Cell Max with his Orange form.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I imagine that it's a similar gap between Super Perfect Cell and SS2 Preteen Gohan.

More than close enough that the former could still be a real challenge, but the latter is overall still stronger without mental blocks.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

As much as many might hate it, it makes sense that Gohan Beast has the highest sheer raw power out of everyone of the main cast currently. Not to say that he could do well with that power given how arrogant he gets when he unlocks this potential and how he's not that great of a fighter compared to G...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:24 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12433
Views: 1728006

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Makes sense it'd be a Toriyama design.

While he's more well-known for Saiyans and other human-like characters in that iconic style, he's got a real knack for making robots.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:30 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12433
Views: 1728006

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Not to mention many of the comedic bits require you to have gotten used to the flanderized Abridged takes on characters and their development in the series prior to the Buu Bits. Vegeta's parts only work if you know how his relationship with Goku developed in the Abridged series and the fallout of i...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:28 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Characters you'd like to see interact more often
Replies: 9
Views: 1539

Re: Characters you'd like to see interact more often

I've always wanted to see how 18 and Piccolo would interact with each other given how her brother and him fought long ago.

She's got real sass while Piccolo is mostly the straight man to every other serious fighter's nonsense.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:51 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12433
Views: 1728006

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

I loved all the Buu bits so much.

TFS definitely would've done an amazing job if they had abridged the thing properly, but I understand that small bits are better for them.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 105363

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

I think we can make up a multiplier for Ikari state, because it's not the first time an Oozaru's power has changed. There's the Golden Oozaru, and then SS4 itself which is a controlled version of that state. Ikari is also a unique mutation of the Oozaru form, one that doesn't fully transform Broly a...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:07 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 105363

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

In Super, Base Kefla dog walks SSG Goku, SS Kefla one shots SSB Goku and apparently was holding back as she wanted him to get up. Base Broly in DBS Broly capped right after he got the edge on SS Vegeta and then got beat by SSG Vegeta, but the literal instant he gets 10x stronger via going into Wrat...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:27 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12433
Views: 1728006

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

The real difference is the scope of impact.

DBZA influenced the fandom on a community discourse level.

One Piece's 4Kids dub influenced the actual product itself on a financial level.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 76013
Views: 8751898

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Now see, this suddenly explains A LOT. If the rumours and BTS insider info about a slated anime return were indeed accurate at the time, this could be one of the reasons why they didn't pan out. An internal power struggle for control over the distribution and production of the anime side of things w...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:00 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How do you think they will react to Gohan and Piccolo's new transformations?
Replies: 9
Views: 1977

Re: How do you think they will react to Gohan and Piccolo's new transformations?

I think Vegeta might actually surprise everyone by showing some real pride in Gohan. Vegeta has always had a bit of a soft spot for him, even if he doesn't show it that well. I can imagine that he might say something to the effect of being glad to see the little brat actually becoming the strongest ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:18 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
Replies: 12433
Views: 1728006

Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

DBZA definitely isn't as bad as 4Kids's One Piece, because it wasn't essentially a write-off simply because of contractual obligations.

4Kids damaged the One Piece brand outside of Japan, DBZA simply stoked interest in the brand during the internet era.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Piccolo is stronger than Goten and Trunks, they were only every said to be stronger than Krillin, Master Roshi and Tien by the Tournament of Power. He was certainly stronger than them by the Tournament of Power (he was stronger than SS2 Gohan who had gotten back into better fighting form compared t...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:58 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread
Replies: 1968
Views: 363027

Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Damn, Yamcha got snubbed AGAIN.

And not even because of any real external factors. He was all set to get married. Unfortunately he hit the snag of being a mortal human with a small lifespan compared to the cosmic entities of the multiverse.
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:23 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think another factor to consider is Piccolo saying Goku and Vegeta together. While it might be reading into the line a bit much, I think it's kinda meant to imply the 2 of them considered at the same level, as he equated Gamma 1 and 2 as equal. And given that they're Saiyans with many of the same ...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I've heard some theorize that Gamma 1 and 2 are kinda stand-ins for Goku and Vegeta in this part of the DBS overarching story, basically acting as their counterparts in personality and power. Gamma 2 is carefree and cocky, Gamma 1 is serious and focused. And with the film being a direct sequel to th...
by PerhapsTheOtherOne
Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39971
Views: 3923050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

BTW, did the manga give any indication about where Gamma 1/2 and Ultimate Gohan/Piccolo compared to various forms of Goku/Vegeta prior to Orange Piccolo appearing? I'd like to know what it (did not) have to say/show on that matter, as it's been a point of contention when it comes to scaling the Supe...