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by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:01 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

If the Saiyan saga was adapted into a live action movie, I could see someone like The Rock playing Nappa. The only DB characters that I could see being caucasian are Bluma, Dr. Gero, #16, #18 and Mr. Satan. I always thought of Mr. Satan as either being Middle Eastern or mixed Black/White. Also, Gen...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:53 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

Goku is based on Jackie Chan. It's even more obvious when you look at his prototype designs and predecessors - I believe he was pressured by Torishima to give him the crazy hair. Toriyama has even said he can't picture anybody other than Young Jackie Chan playing Goku in a movie. Ehh, I mean he doe...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:23 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

It does matter, him being revealed as an alien later on doesn't change anything. It doesn't change that he was based on Sun Wukong, has the same name, lives in a Chinese inspired setting etc. Toriyama didn't place him in the Western Dragon Ball World, he didn't give him a Western Dragon Ball name (...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:15 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Goku's character and appearance is based off 1) a Chinese folk character and 2) a famous Chinese actor and that the Saiyan race's characteristics are literally copy/pasted from Goku's? I didn't ignore the first reason. I just don't agree with using that as rea...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

It doesn't matter whether it was his birth name or not. He is primarily known by an Asian name. Yes it does matter. He's related to his birthparents by blood. He's not related to Gohan. Me not being Asian, if I were adopted by Asian parents and given an Asian name, I wouldn't suddenly magically loo...
by Melee_Sovereign
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:31 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

This doesn't make much sense. Piccolo is not human. Nor does he have an Asian name or is based off of an Asian character. Goku is also not human. His birthparents didn't give him an Asian name. And being based off of an Asian character doesn't make that character Asian. Monkey from Enslaved: Odysse...
by Melee_Sovereign
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

If they're human you would look at other aspects, yes? Yes, and it's important to note why. Reason being that a human in an Asian-like setting is most likely a native of that setting. An alien is definitely not a native. Unless Toriyama planned on making him an alien from the beginning - which he d...
by Melee_Sovereign
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What does Jiren think of Marcarita?
Replies: 5
Views: 1022

Re: What does Jiren think of Marcarita?

Jiren doesn't seem like the type of person who drinks. :P
by Melee_Sovereign
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:49 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

I would by and large look for anyone who's relatively tan and muscular (with some exception), and either has naturally spiky hair, or make their hair spiky with a hair stylist. No I don't have to choose a race, nor would I. Regardless of Toriyama's art style, would you really cast any person from a...
by Melee_Sovereign
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

doesn't erase the fact that he was human prior to that. It does, actually. Because that's how fictional continuity works. He was always an alien. He was never human. Him being introduced as an alien much later in the series, means that changes things retroactively. Then let's make something clear a...
by Melee_Sovereign
Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:07 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

Toriyama just decided to make everything about him East Asian inspired except for his race? As far as we can tell, yes. Because he's an alien. You understand that an alien can crash-land anywhere on Earth? You didn't answer the question. You had to choose a race. No I don't have to choose a race, n...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:50 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

The only thing that makes them different in terms of appearance is their tail and always having spiky hair. They aren't born stocky and muscular. Their hair is not just spiky. It's wildly spiky. And they're clearly more predisposed to become muscular. It's not ubiquitous, but it's clearly a genetic...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

Aside from the monkey tail Goku has no problem blending in with humans. The hair is just standard manga stuff and plenty of Saiyans don’t have spiky hair. My point wasn't that they can't blend with humans. My point is the saiyans have distinct ethnic traits the same way a distinct ethnic group of h...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:01 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

But you just know the same people using the “Not Asian, he’s an alien!” argument would throw a bitch fit if Superman was played by anyone other than a white man. Despite the same principle applying here. To their defense, due to the art style of comics, it's more obvious with Superman. Dragon Ball'...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Asian characters in Dragon Ball
Replies: 178
Views: 23647

Re: Westerners love to claim Asian characters.

WittyUsername wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:59 am Obviously, the idea that Goku can’t be Asian because he’s an alien is silly
It's not silly. It's being literal. Asia only exists on planet Earth, and Goku isn't from Earth.

You can say Saiyans are "based" on Asians, sure. But to say they're literally Asian is categorically wrong.
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:12 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Did Freeza ever say, "This is not even my final form" in canon?
Replies: 10
Views: 3434

Re: Did Freeza ever say, "This is not even my final form" in canon?

It's a paraphrase. He said something along those lines, but not that exact wording. In the English dub, right before transforming to his 3rd form, he said "And keep in mind it's not my ultimate form. I still have one more transformation!". In the Japanese version, he said "And I still...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:21 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Force Spirit Fission similar to Hokuto Shin Ken?
Replies: 1
Views: 258

Force Spirit Fission similar to Hokuto Shin Ken?

For those who don't know, Hokuto Shin Ken is the ancient martial arts system Kenshiro uses in Fist of the North Star, where he strikes his opponent's vital points and manipulates the energy within them. He can do things like cause them to explode, perform actions involuntarily, and many more things....
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:25 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Johnny Yong Bosch Replaces Vic Mignogna as Broly.
Replies: 49
Views: 6564

Re: Johnny Yong Bosch Replaces Vic Mignogna as Broly.

Kind of sucks this man's reputation was ruined over lies and rumors.
by Melee_Sovereign
Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 8502
Views: 1284326

Re: "Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

I was really hoping for some classic Dragon Ball characters in this game. Arale would have been cool too.