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by QuakingStar
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

You are forgetting that Broly was using ape boost as soon as he started turning the tables on Vegeta. Multiple times, there is a close in his eyes turning yellow, indicating the ape power is taking effect on him. That’s why I’m not understanding why the ever rising power is being treated as a diffe...
by QuakingStar
Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

Broly hit his limit vs SSB Goku, and again as a SS vs SS Gogeta then again with LSS vs SSB Gogeta, so my examples of SS Fusion doing better than SSGSS and base fusion doing better than SSG are both right there. Fusion only did that good because Goku and Vegeta are that strong. Doesn't matter. Same ...
by QuakingStar
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

I think we can make up a multiplier for Ikari state, because it's not the first time an Oozaru's power has changed. There's the Golden Oozaru, and then SS4 itself which is a controlled version of that state. Ikari is also a unique mutation of the Oozaru form, one that doesn't fully transform Broly ...
by QuakingStar
Sat Sep 02, 2023 2:49 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

I think we can make up a multiplier for Ikari state, because it's not the first time an Oozaru's power has changed. There's the Golden Oozaru, and then SS4 itself which is a controlled version of that state. Ikari is also a unique mutation of the Oozaru form, one that doesn't fully transform Broly ...
by QuakingStar
Sat Sep 02, 2023 12:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

The only things a Saiyan Mutant would change would be the transformations used in the fusion. Kelfas base form still dogged SSG Goku. You also can't just make up a multiplier for Great Apes initial power which is 10x the users power. In the anime Potara was said to be the two users powers combined t...
by QuakingStar
Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

In Super, Base Kefla dog walks SSG Goku, SS Kefla one shots SSB Goku and apparently was holding back as she wanted him to get up. Base Broly in DBS Broly capped right after he got the edge on SS Vegeta and then got beat by SSG Vegeta, but the literal instant he gets 10x stronger via going into Wrat...
by QuakingStar
Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

In Super, Base Kefla dog walks SSG Goku, SS Kefla one shots SSB Goku and apparently was holding back as she wanted him to get up. Base Broly in DBS Broly capped right after he got the edge on SS Vegeta and then got beat by SSG Vegeta, but the literal instant he gets 10x stronger via going into Wrath...
by QuakingStar
Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That’s because in Super the kids were nerfed, probably because Toriyama didn’t remember how strong they were in the original manga. SS Goten and SS Kid Trunks were stronger than Piccolo. Piccolo said to Krillin that without Goku, Gohan and Vegeta, the kids were their only hope to defeat Majin Boo, ...
by QuakingStar
Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Piccolo is stronger than Goten and Trunks, they were only every said to be stronger than Krillin, Master Roshi and Tien by the Tournament of Power. He was certainly stronger than them by the Tournament of Power (he was stronger than SS2 Gohan who had gotten back into better fighting form compared t...
by QuakingStar
Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Piccolo is stronger than Goten and Trunks, they were only every said to be stronger than Krillin, Master Roshi and Tien by the Tournament of Power.
by QuakingStar
Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:20 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

Yeah, Granolah never did any sort of punch or attack that threatened the Universe, while Goku in SSG did.. SSG Goku confirmed stronger than Granolah GGz. Yeah this is exactly how much "feats" are worth, especially if you use only the cool ones. And i'm not talking just about Super, but DB...
by QuakingStar
Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:33 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

Yeah, Granolah never did any sort of punch or attack that threatened the Universe, while Goku in SSG did.. SSG Goku confirmed stronger than Granolah GGz. That's the kind of logic the powerscaling fandom uses a lot and it's ridiculous. The best showing of power we will get for the non-canon form SS4 ...
by QuakingStar
Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 501
Views: 103523

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

I forgot this existed. Anyway, in the latest heroes episode we are shown SS4LB Xeno Goku fighting UI Sign CC Goku, outside of UI's auto dodge and auto attack ability they are even, with Goku winning once he uses full UI. We see a snippet of Blue Evolved CC Vegeta vs SS4LB Xeno Vegeta and they are ev...
by QuakingStar
Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Jiren is not THAT much stronger than SSBKK20 Goku or SSBE Vegeta so he's not wrong. Huh? Did you watch the anime at all? :lol: Jiren knocked Goku out of Kaio-Ken with an eye glare, he took on SSJB Kaio-ken Goku and SSJBE Vegeta at the same time casually, he overpowered a ki blast from #17, a Kameha...
by QuakingStar
Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

People don't say Sign and SSBE because this isn't a manga exclusive arc. It's a movie script by Toriyama that more closely follows where the anime left off. At that point, SSB were Goku and Vegeta's strongest forms. In-universe, it makes sense for Piccolo to refer to Sign and SSBE but out of univer...
by QuakingStar
Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The "extra bit" from Shenlong being the ability to unlock divine ki makes sense if it's because Kami was... Well, God. I'm beginning to believe the "extra bit" was simply Shenron forcing the Orange Piccolo form to be at the cusp of awakening instead of Piccolo having to train fo...
by QuakingStar
Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

This kind of has to do with strength so I will post it.

Spoiler warning.
by QuakingStar
Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Who's the strongest GT character Moro arc Boo could beat? Assuming he doesn't solo the verse, if he fuses with GT Oob, does he then? Instead of fusing with GT Oob, how far does he get in Super by fusing with DBS Oob? It depends on a lot of factors. Powerscalling GT vs. Super vs. Heroes usually open...
by QuakingStar
Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:11 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Broly is definitely included in that wish. The Granolah arc takes place in about 781, SH takes place in about 783. Broly didn't sit around and do nothing for 2 years.. all he has to do is eating and training on Vampa, that's it. He's also a fast learner so maybe he started to figure out how to bette...
by QuakingStar
Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39787
Views: 3828496

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

What interview is this? I'm genuinely curious Yeah this is news to me. I'm sure if it's real Herms already translated it. Can somebody link the source to this? He must be talking about this . Yeah that was pre-Gas/Black Frieza/Cell Max/Beast Gohan and it seems Broly wasn't supposed to be mentioned ...