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by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Do my eyes deceive me? It's the start of the skirmish between Goku and Gohan, and people are writing Gohan off compared to Freeza? The guy whom Toriyama said is "actually" strongest and claimed or it is also said? Since all he has to do is get angry and sneeze and he explodes with more po...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That sounds very dumb, but I get it. Basically: Silver UI ~ Full power: 100 ~ Weakened: 50 UI Sign ~ Normally: 25 ~ True: 75 Seems like this would basically be it. Vegeta was having a similar problem with UE preventing him from tapping into its full power and said he needed to master it better so h...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

His use of UI in the Granolah arc being affected by his emotions made it slightly less effective than TUI in terms of fighting. TUI could go all out and not be effected negatively by emotions, and in fact could use Goku's anger to advantage. But in power and speed UI is still better overall. This is...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Beerus confirmed this chapter that MUI > TUI. Ha! there were people claiming "hehehehe Goku isn't even TUI this means he isn't taking Gohan seriously!" as if they forgot that TUI is just UI Sign but more suited to Goku AND weaker than UI lol Oh, and to add to this. "Gohan Beast is on...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

ZombieVito wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:08 pm Beerus confirmed this chapter that
Ha! there were people claiming "hehehehe Goku isn't even TUI this means he isn't taking Gohan seriously!" as if they forgot that TUI is just UI Sign but more suited to Goku AND weaker than UI lol
by QuakingStar
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Silver UI is stronger than TUI. TUI though slightly weaker is more optimal for him as they explained in the Granolah Arc. This is also two years later, so Goku has likely mastered UI to the point he no longer needs to use TUI therefor he can use his true full power without worry.
by QuakingStar
Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I may be proven wrong over the next few months but I very much doubt we'll see Gohan one shotting Goku to place him at Freeza's level. He won't. Gohan isn't the MC, he MIGHT have more power than Goku but UI has auto-dodge and auto-attack for example, and Gohan not being the MC he will be surpassed ...
by QuakingStar
Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But when did Broly got to near death? He was pummeled, but didn't seem very hurt, and Gogeta's last kamehameha never hit him. All other instances of "zenkais" happened after the saiyans body was left near death. Broly came close to dying, but not because of damage. Gogeta's kamehameha mig...
by QuakingStar
Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I actually think there are reasons to believe Broly got stronger post movie due to his biology, but not to explain his current placement at the top. He never had any fights or experiences that might've secured him a zenkai, not until coming to Earth, in that regard, his body should be comparable to...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

In the Manga, Fused Zamasu being immortal was the issue. His power wasn't slightly less than Perfected Blue Goku's. There was also the fact he just made clones of himself too. Being an immortal only Zeno could erase him and only sealing him could actually defeat him and there were too many of him to...
by QuakingStar
Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's not definitive how Zeno and Super Shenron compare until more is revealed about Zalama. For instance, if Toriyama asspulls that Zalama is the true ruler or whatever, then you could argue that Super Shenron's magic is comparable or superior to Zeno's. As it stands now, both Zeno and Super Shenro...
by QuakingStar
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Currently (Don't know where exactly to put incomplete UI Beerus really) ---UE Beerus Tier--- UE Beerus ---Beerus Tier--- SSB Gogeta ~ SSB Vegito Beerus Black Frieza ~ LSS Broly ~ Beast Gohan ---TUI Goku Tier--- Cell MAX Zombie Gas TUI Goku ~ UE Vegeta ~ Orange Piccolo Granolah --- MUI Goku Tier--- ...
by QuakingStar
Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Cheelai asked what are they going to do about Black Freeza? Right now, Goku, Vegeta and Broly are not the answer to Freeza's Black form. As Goku said he is "something else." Beerus isn't threatened and let's Goku know that when he finally surpasses him that he'll make him God of Destructi...
by QuakingStar
Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Currently (Don't know where exactly to put incomplete UI Beerus really) ---UE Beerus Tier--- UE Beerus ---Beerus Tier--- SSB Gogeta ~ SSB Vegito Beerus Black Frieza ~ LSS Broly ~ Beast Gohan ---TUI Goku Tier--- Cell MAX Zombie Gas TUI Goku ~ UE Vegeta ~ Orange Piccolo Granolah --- MUI Goku Tier--- M...
by QuakingStar
Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4620
Views: 580705

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

I love how stern of a father Goku is in the Toei movies. Telling Gohan in the Bojack film to "stop being a pampered baby" and asking Goten and Gohan in the Broly movie "can't you protect the Earth if I'm not around?" He's not exactly a soft pushover of a father in Toriyama's Dra...
by QuakingStar
Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It was 781 when Frieza did that, and it's 783 when Goku goes to Earth so it's been 2 years. Goku and Vegeta were on Earth 3 weeks prior to the beginning of the SH events. When were they on earth 3 years prior to SH movie? Edit: 3 weeks prior https://i.imgur.com/1u4DI0i.png Bulma saw Vegeta 3 weeks ...
by QuakingStar
Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

How much time has passed since Frieza 1-shot Goku and Vegeta until Goku goes to earth because he sensed Gohan's beast form? Anything official, or even patched together head-cannon? It was 781 when Frieza did that, and it's 783 when Goku goes to Earth so it's been 2 years. Goku and Vegeta were on Ea...
by QuakingStar
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Another issue us everyone is assuming Broly hasn't been training, or that he didn't get a "zenkai" from the battle with Gogeta. He could have easily gotten far stronger than when he fought Gogeta in the three years between his appearance and the SH Arc, and even if it was by a PL differenc...
by QuakingStar
Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Ok lemme stop you right there, I see you trying to reframe your original argument from "Broly isn't one of the strongest" to "Broly isn't the strongest" No one here ever claimed the latter (Broly got wreaked by Gogeta in his debut film for kami sake) Meanwhile for the former arg...
by QuakingStar
Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39788
Views: 3828559

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Toyotaro himself never said Broly was one of the strongest and in fact ignored Uchiha and kept saying it was Goku, Vegeta and Granolah . Keep in mind this before the SH, it's best look at this interview as well as every other(or lack there of) power statement in the prior arcs in regards to Broly a...