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Cheelai asked what are they going to do about Black Freeza? Right now, Goku, Vegeta and Broly are not the answer to Freeza's Black form. As Goku said he is "something else." Beerus isn't threatened and let's Goku know that when he finally surpasses him that he'll make him God of Destructio...

The Broly panel being included alongside Grand Priest confused the living hell out of people, including @SupaChronicles. It was Uchida who name dropped Broly and Toyotaro ignores all those names in his rankings, citing Goku, Vegeta and Granolah as the 3 strongest in the universe. Uchida likely ante...

Your point being your just going to ignore everything ranging the manga's narrative, the supplementary manga material, and even fucking world of ToyotarToriyama himself, All to push your baseless "Broly isn't one of the strongest" claim? Ok Like those 2 things you constantly cite as proof...

Again, you post something that proves my exact point. Thanks. Your point being your just going to ignore everything ranging the manga's narrative, the supplementary manga material, and even fucking world of ToyotarToriyama himself, All to push your baseless "Broly isn't one of the strongest&qu...

This was also included in the printed Jump magazine, more Black Freeza hyping. https://twitter.com/TooRealUnreal/status/1748406441239560602 This is being taken out of context for this discussion, and isn't even from the current (March 2024) issue... it's from last month's (February 2024) issue, the...

The problem is fans think official sources override/same as canon material. This is not the case. They even think this is the case for the manga and movies. Which the head of the Dragonball Room [or Former] said they are not. We clearly see this on screen and on paper. DBS: Super Hero in the movie ...

The problem is fans think official sources override/same as canon material. This is not the case. They even think this is the case for the manga and movies. Which the head of the Dragonball Room [or Former] said they are not. We clearly see this on screen and on paper. DBS: Super Hero in the movie u...

Where is that stated? He wasn't even considered among the tops in the universe in Granolah. So how is he going to be among the tops even in Super Hero? Goku and Vegeta being nervous of him loosing control during training, Goku listing Broly as one of the people he and Vegeta need to surpass, Toriya...

Ok lemme stop you right there, I see you trying to reframe your original argument from "Broly isn't one of the strongest" to "Broly isn't the strongest" No one here ever claimed the latter (Broly got wreaked by Gogeta in his debut film for kami sake) Meanwhile for the former arg...

Wow, someone actually going to bat for some of the dumbest lines in Dragon Ball history. Anyway the major issue with the meditation scene in Super Hero is that Goku has ZERO idea what Vegeta is doing at all, he doesn't even identify it as meditation, he just thinks Vegeta is lazing around for no re...

False. Black Freeza is a transformation from the Granolah arc. Ok lemme stop you right there, I see you trying to reframe your original argument from "Broly isn't one of the strongest" to "Broly isn't the strongest" No one here ever claimed the latter (Broly got wreaked by Goget...

Then along came Super Hero and it's manga adaptation, Now he's the man again :wave: Only if you magically handwave the two arcs in the manga since the Broly movie. :lol: Which Toyotaro did when he adapted Super Hero as a manga arc :P False. Black Freeza is a transformation from the Granolah arc.

Goku does not remember the training with the gods [Korin, Kami, Popo, Kai etc] he had back in DB hence why his training with the gods [Beerus/Whis] now has suffered.Which was solely dependent on the spirit. Which is what Ultra Instinct is about. Goku was concerned about power in latter DB, controlli...

shadd21 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:49 pm

Miracles wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:51 pm It seems people just can't accept the fact that Broly was never the man since his movie debut. Too bad.

Then along came Super Hero and it's manga adaptation, Now he's the man again

Only if you magically handwave the two arcs in the manga since the Broly movie.

Re-reading the chapter and Vegeta states explicitly that Broly can't access his full power because he's scared of snapping. Vegeta also says "to battle without losing yourself is an achievement, but you seem unable to unleash your true might" seems pretty explicit that Broly can't access ...

Exactly. People just don't want to believe Broly ain't relevant right now [As the Granolah arc deemed it]. That's why if Freeza shows up he is gonna make Goku, Vegeta and Broly change careers setting his dinner tables with Macki and Oil.

It was never stated Broly could not access his FP, only implied that it's tricky and he cannot control himself if he uses it. On the other hand Gohan did not awaken Beast period until Cell Max so I definitely do not see how Broly's SS and SSFP form would be not included in the wish when it was lite...

Pure head canon by you. Amigo, I'm not the one who thinks that Beerus secretly trains off-screen to grow several times stronger than we saw him previously between story arcs. I'm presenting something that was formerly a pretty reasonable assumption that is now an unambiguous fact presented directly...

Called it. Um, no. This chapter confirmed the exact opposite of whatever you're talking about. Broly isn't the strongest specifically because he's essentially locked out of the power he could use in the movie. He stopped being the greatest in the universe the moment he went back to base form after ...

Called it. Broly wasn't among the strongest in the universe. Goku and Vegeta are stronger and he wasn't exempt from the wish and Black Freeza will smoke him also.

Gohan is looking like the one to be the answer to Freeza right now.