Kanzenshuu

There's more to fights than just the power reading off a Scouter. Ki can be charged, multiplied, concentrated, etc, and that throws mud into whatever number a Scouter can be throwing up. For example, Raditz' power was 1,500, and Piccolo's top reading was 1,480. That's a 2.4% difference from Raditz,...

The battle makes much more sense if you consider the power levels that Nappa read off for Piccolo, Krillin, and Gohan at the start but then we have the Daizenshuu's figures. Accordingly, Piccolo was at 3,500 which is around the range of 14% less than Nappa's 4,000 which is far from the biggest disad...

It seems you ignored my last statement, so let me re-iterate this once again. Buu arc Vegetto was not compared to SSJ4 Goku. Neither the events of the Buu arc nor GT Goku himself were referenced in that passage. The Potara fusion strength boost in general was compared to a SSJ4 transformation. This...

There's already the fact that SSJG is superior to potara fusion(which in Goku & Vegeta's case was stated by an anime book to rival SSJ4 GT Goku) and the tier of SSJG from the BOG arc is over a hundred times weaker than the power that Goku summons in the ToP. I'm not sure how this can even be a d...

It's not really impossible Goku got stronger out of the blue for the Pure Boo fight. Pretty sure Toei did that on Super a few times, so nothing much wrong with this hapening on Z. The truth isn't that "its not really impossible", it is impossible. There's no way that Goku received such a ...

What would it even look like? Would Piccolo glow a bright emerald-green and grow taller & more muscular? Maybe some sparks? His antennae increasing in length? Maybe even a large slug-like tail?

Cetra wrote:Super Saiyajin 4 Blue Ultra Instinct Gogetto?

He would explode from existing and take reality with him.

It doesn't necessarily need to go that far. I'd settle for a rough estimate of Gogetto's base state and the traditional SSJ1-SSJ3 lineage.

It seems like it would be the ultimate fusion of Goku & Vegeta by having their respective fusions combine: the more carefree Gogeta and the more tense Vegetto fusing to make a single warrior that is both calm but also ready for anything which is not unlike the principle of Ultra Instinct. Would ...

The way I see it, SS4 is potentially comparable to SSG and SSB. But that's without even getting into Kaio-ken, Evolution, and the Hakaishin. I generally lean more to it being comparable to SSG, and even that's iffy; constant progression is the name of the game in this franchise. Omega Shenron, the ...

The East Kaioshin has more in the way of raw power, but he's not really a martial arts master and probably hasn't ever really trained anyone despite being around for over 5 million years. In the long run this probably wouldn't work out that well -- Goku might be able to do without the Kaio-ken if h...

Suppose that Kaioshin decided to take a more direct approach the inevitable fight with Boo and foresaw the potential that Goku was capable of as soon as he was killed in the battle with Raditz: visiting Enma's palace with Kibito to take Goku to the Kaioshin realm and train him for the entire year un...

Low class Saiyans tend to look similar so that sums up the resemblance in a nutshell. However , if you wanted to argue it then you could say that Goku & Turles are very distant relatives due to the Saiyans having a relatively small population for an entire race, they could be distant cousins or ...

I don't think they were much stronger than they were in the Buu arc as there weren't any training they could do to get noticeably stronger so if they had the forms without Whis' training then they'd be weaker than they are in Super. Huh? GT Goku was stronger than Kid Boo just in base form and GT Ve...

I always wondered if it could have been possible for the events of GT to occur but the power up of the SSJG forms were granted to these considerably stronger base versions of Goku & Vegeta. With that being said then how would GT Goku or Vegeta have fared had they attained SSJG or SSJB?

I at least would like to imagine it like this. After one year, Goten & Trunks manage to perfect their fusion dance to the point of maintaining SSJ3 for the entire duration as well training as Gotenks when not training as individuals, spiking Gotenks' total power to being above even Anime Base Ve...

Say that Beerus decided to sleep in for another few years and so SSJG was never discovered in the time until Freeza was revived. Freeza would hear of how Goku defeated Majin Boo and so he would train for 4 months like he did and plotted a course for Earth. Kibitoshin & Rou Kaioshin would learn o...

Another question: if Arale is really strong even by BDS standards, what canonical reason could there be for her not being chosen to participate in the ToP? It's a question that's not even supposed to be asked, I know, but if we do ask it. Its because that despite her strength, Arale isn't capable o...

She's at least somewhere on par with some of stronger characters in DBS if we go by her best Dr. Slump feats. An example being Champa(in the manga) fragmenting a planet with a kick which is something that Arale can also do, perhaps a bit easier than Champa though as his feat involved fighting intens...

majinwarman wrote:

Bebi Hatchiyack wrote:

One_Instance wrote:
Too unoriginal, but we're on the right path... Hmmmm.... I know! Vegeta Black!!

Bebi Copy Black Broly

Perfect!

Better yet, Baby-Hatchiyack-Copy-Black-Bio-Broly-Ginyu.

Suppose a turn of events lead to Bootenks not wasting any time and either successfully killed Gohan quickly or absorbed him, this leaving Goku's next best fusion partner being Shin upon Rou Kaioshin informing them of Gohan's demise and the abilities of the potara. How would events from there on out ...