Kanzenshuu

- It is entirely possible the writer of the Copy-Vegeta arc made a blunder and that neither Toriyama nor Toyotaro are designing the story to reflect base Goku > SS3 Vegeta, much like in the past Yamcha would beat up Olibu. I disagree that its a blunder considering in the manga DBS manga base Black ...

I think they just don't know what to do with him. Toriyama himself didn't use him that much apart from his 2 fights with Goku so if the author didn't seem that interested in him then it's no surprise to see that rub off on the staff as well. I don't know about people in Japan but I think he's a gre...

The time-skip only working on stronger people is something you extrapolated from the manga, it doesn't apply to the anime and that still remains a plot hole in the anime because Goku's SSB was stronger than Hit at the start of the fight, yet the time-skip still worked then. Hit's able to hurt stron...

Pardon, but "turn of events"? Please, we had Gods battlings against each other in the anime too, the only difference in this is that were more Gods fighting themselves. I mean I like the direction the manga appears to be heading in compared to the anime's take on things which I generally ...

In the universe 6 tournament, he only improved his time-skip, not his physical power. Even when Goku gets hit by the improved time-skip, is referring to how powered up that technique was, not exactly how much more powerful Hit was, this is evident when . Hit was only able to fight Goku when he went...

Frieza's reasoning is completely different from the others. Freeza is actually a prodigy. He has never trained a day in his life and he was already extremely powerful. Just think about it, a powerful being actually training for once, for four straight months. The Freeza incidence bugs me as its imp...

Hmmm...I liking this turn of events the manga has, better than the anime in my honest opinion.

Sorry for the long delay in response, this topic slipped my mind. Like I said, the excerpt applies for sure to the Saiyans you see in ROF -- which are the Saiyans described as individuals who truly, undoubtedly "wield the power of a Super Saiyan God" and who, obviously, "can go Super ...

More like Goku and Ganos barely fought each other and when they did, Base Goku had the advantage on Ganos who was on the defensive. The same Base Goku that one-shotted Roshi in episode 89 and the same Base Goku that stalemated a post-88 Base Gohan. Kuririn pressured Base Goku enough to go SSJ, some...

Yes it is, you made the claim the pamphlet mentioned when a saiyan with the power of SSJG transforms into SSJ they turn SSJB. Goku contradicts this back in BoGs already, whatever speculation you have afterwards is just that, speculation which can't be proven. ... Which happens before ROF, before Go...

I agree, but the fighters from universe 7 were still able to have some idea of how powerful the opponent they were up against was, they could tell when their opponent was hiding power and realistically could determine their chance of winning before the battle even begun. The Trio De Danger, had no ...

At this stage, having SSJ3 would be redundant. It's the most impractical SSJ3 form there is because of how much it burns through your energy. It's a terrible form to use in combat. Again it's not abotu the use but more abotu fan service and the simply showing that Vegeta has it like people debated ...

Though I do agree with the merits of your post, that the strength and effectiveness of forms is only really determined by the writer, I would like to add that I don't think the Trio De Danger's could actually sense Ki. If they could, they would have instantly realized that Buu was far more dangerou...

The burden of proof here is not on me. The material outright implies that in the ROF movie they couldn't transform into SSB unless they had their "god-like power"; that's a premise, not something I need to prove. Yes it is, you made the claim the pamphlet mentioned when a saiyan with the ...

Actually, there's no concrete proof SSJ = 50x and SSJ2 = 100x in Super, at least at any giving moment by different writers as shown by Beerus mentioning SSJ only gave base Goku a slight boost in power Zamasu does say Goku got tens of times stronger when he turned Super Saiyan. Read my post carefull...

And there's still literally no contradiction to be found, because you don't know a thing about what happened in-between BOG and ROF. Like I said, Goku doesn't use Super Saiyan in the ROF movie, so the argument he can by default is, well, pointless. I also stress again that the pamphlet is just para...

You missed the point like always and distorted my argument exactly like you said I was supposedly doing. You can't prove the exact amount trunks means when he says "a little" so your argument is moot. Doesn't change the fact that super shows Gohan to be over 100x stronger than Gotenks sin...

I don't see why people feel Piccolo's fight was rushed. It was the perfect length actually, seeing Piccolo finally get his first win taking out another fighter who wasn't the main draw of the episode. This isn't DBZ where fights have to go on for multiple eps. Probably because Piccolo got his ass b...

I give this episode a 6/10 when I wanted to initially give it a 5/10, Gohan and Piccolo (Despite their battles being alrite) kind of represented, 17's battle with chubby was kind of dull and uneventful, but 17's "I don't really give a damn" attitude makes me laugh for some reason, and I do...

I'm afraid your objection doesn't make much sense. The pamphlet is, first off, official material. It's also merely parroting Goku's words when he describes Blue for the first time. BOG doesn't contradict anything until proven otherwise, since it happens way before ROF takes place. We don't know wha...