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by dragonball0900
Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong the Supreme Kai really is?/How strong is Buu Arc Piccolo? Why it is believed he surpassed the Cell Jr?
Replies: 22
Views: 9464

Re: How strong the Supreme Kai really is?

If Gohan is a Super Saiyan against Dabra, logic automatically breaks down. Besides, Daizenshuu 2 says that Gohan only was a SS2 against Kibito, but Daizenshuu 7 states that Gohan was a SS2 against Dabra... so, go figure. The guidebooks are mostly reliable & usefull to have around, but they are ...
by dragonball0900
Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong the Supreme Kai really is?/How strong is Buu Arc Piccolo? Why it is believed he surpassed the Cell Jr?
Replies: 22
Views: 9464

Re: How strong the Supreme Kai really is?

Kaioshin is stronger than Piccolo & the regular Super Saiyans , but weaker than the Super Saiyan 2s & Dabra. I agree with everything you said, but I'm not sure of this. The thing of "Dabura vs Gohan" is an endless debate, but considering how the guides mentioned that Gohan was SSJ...
by dragonball0900
Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:37 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why do some people think Piccolo surpassed the Cell Jr in the Buu saga?
Replies: 1
Views: 903

Why do some people think Piccolo surpassed the Cell Jr in the Buu saga?

I just want to ask this. We know that Piccolo is inferior to the Supreme Kai, who is superior to Dabura. That's stated in Daizenshuus and the manga clearly. For instance, in the Super manga, the Supreme Kai was completely defeated by a ki blast from Dabura, I know it was off guard, but it was enough...
by dragonball0900
Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong the Supreme Kai really is?/How strong is Buu Arc Piccolo? Why it is believed he surpassed the Cell Jr?
Replies: 22
Views: 9464

How strong the Supreme Kai really is?/How strong is Buu Arc Piccolo? Why it is believed he surpassed the Cell Jr?

How strong the Supreme Kai really is? His strenght was always a wonder to some people. The only thing I know it's stated it was that he's much stronger than Piccolo (stated in the Daizenshuu and manga), but much weaker than Dabura (manga as well). Piccolo (Buu) < Supreme Kai < Dabura This is obviou...
by dragonball0900
Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37484
Views: 3474707

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Kame-Tsuru (fusion between Kame Sennin and Tsuru Sennin) vs Daimao? R1- Old R2- Young The two had a very strong rivalry so I'm wondering just how many tiers they could jump as a fusion? Keep in mind the following: 1. Tenshinhan never went all out against Roshi. Roshi was actually in awe of Goku and...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it really possible for the "base" Saiyans to be weaker than Freeza in Battle of Gods?
Replies: 47
Views: 5353

Re: Is it really possible for the "base" Saiyans to be weaker than Freeza in Battle of Gods?

Well. I did it. I was finally able to make a power level list with BOG Base Goku being weaker than Frieza, with the minimum differences on gaps of power (based on fights like Cui vs Vegeta, etc). The number I managed to get was narrowly with a number of 110M, (100M in the Buu saga by the way), but ...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The new arc will (may?) settle an old debate: Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn
Replies: 202
Views: 19202

Re: The new Arc will settle an age old debate. Tien vs Krilin

Have to agree with lord turbo here. Nappa went against Tien first instead of Krillin. Put in on this way: Imagine Nappa didn't go against Tien, and instead he goes against Krillin. He could've broken his arm as well. In the original fight, Nappa wanted to kill Tien first, while Krillin, Piccolo and...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it really possible for the "base" Saiyans to be weaker than Freeza in Battle of Gods?
Replies: 47
Views: 5353

Re: Is it really possible for the "base" Saiyans to be weaker than Freeza in Battle of Gods?

Well. I did it. I was finally able to make a power level list with BOG Base Goku being weaker than Frieza, with the minimum differences on gaps of power (based on fights like Cui vs Vegeta, etc). The number I managed to get was narrowly with a number of 110M, (100M in the Buu saga by the way), but h...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37484
Views: 3474707

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Cell Games ASSJ Vegeta and Future Trunks, Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, Yamcha, Chiaotzu VS Manga Perfect Cell (after regenerating from his torso being blown away by Goku's Kamehameha) Cell takes this, but not easily. ASSJ Vegeta is at most just like a 90-95% of Goku, and Cell without too much energy mig...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:11 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The new arc will (may?) settle an old debate: Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn
Replies: 202
Views: 19202

Re: The new Arc will settle an age old debate. Tien vs Krilin

Regarding the Saiyan Arc battle, let's not forget that Tenshinhan's overpowered technique didn't even scratch Nappa's armor, while Krillin's would have killed the guy had Vegeta not interefered. Actually, Tien's kikoho did scratch Nappa's armor, also he was the only one with his technique that mana...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The new arc will (may?) settle an old debate: Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn
Replies: 202
Views: 19202

Re: The new Arc will settle an age old debate. Tien vs Krilin

Have to agree with lord turbo here. Nappa went against Tien first instead of Krillin. Put in on this way: Imagine Nappa didn't go against Tien, and instead he goes against Krillin. He could've broken his arm as well. In the original fight, Nappa wanted to kill Tien first, while Krillin, Piccolo and ...
by dragonball0900
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The 3 strongest KNOWN characters in each arc
Replies: 23
Views: 3026

Re: The 3 strongest KNOWN characters in each arc

Just watched all the lists, and I was soon wondering. Wouldn't Nam be stronger than Krillin, based on the performances of Goku/Roshi against Nam/Krillin?
by dragonball0900
Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it really possible for the "base" Saiyans to be weaker than Freeza in Battle of Gods?
Replies: 47
Views: 5353

Re: Is it really possible for the Base Saiyans to be weaker than Frieza in Battle of Gods?

I've noticed that most people that think Boo arc Goku is stronger than Freeza are also the ones who believe that the Super Saiyan "multiplier" decreases over time. Is this just coincidence or do you think there's a reason? As for me, I can perfectly fit Boo arc Goku at 60,000,000. And the...
by dragonball0900
Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The 3 strongest KNOWN characters in each arc
Replies: 23
Views: 3026

Re: The 3 strongest KNOWN characters in each arc

This would be my list: Pilaf Saga: 1. Munten Roshi 2. Ox-King 3. Goku 21st Tournament Saga: 1. Munten Roshi 2. Goku 3. Nam Muscle Tower Saga: 1. Android 8 2. Munten Roshi 3. Goku General Blue Saga: 1. Munten Roshi 2. Goku 3. Pirate Robot Tao Pai Pai/Commander Red Saga: 1. Korin 2. Goku 3. Black Batt...
by dragonball0900
Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The new arc will (may?) settle an old debate: Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn
Replies: 202
Views: 19202

Re: The new Arc will settle an age old debate. Tien vs Krilin

He said the "among Earthlings, anyway" part to himself. If there's no truth in that part, and all he was concerned about was comforting Marron, why add it at all? Why not just say "your daddy's the strongest in the world," full stop, and leave it at that? Besides, what does it m...
by dragonball0900
Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The new arc will (may?) settle an old debate: Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn
Replies: 202
Views: 19202

Re: The new Arc will settle an age old debate. Tien vs Krilin

I completely agree, there never was a debate. But I will say this, I can see why your average casual fan would think Tenshinhan is stronger than Kuririn. We really have no actual feats for post Namek Kuririn but we do have a fairly impressive one for Tenshinhan. Plus considering the following, who ...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it really possible for the "base" Saiyans to be weaker than Freeza in Battle of Gods?
Replies: 47
Views: 5353

Re: Is it really possible for the Base Saiyans to be weaker than Frieza in Battle of Gods?

I think the problem comes around that Goku could've easily been suppressed against Beerus. Although I agree that the line was there to confirm the base saiyans are weaker than Frieza, it just doesn't make sense with the power gaps from the Cell saga. This means that the whole Cell saga's power scali...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: A ton of Cell's resurrected victims died again from drowning?
Replies: 16
Views: 2820

Re: A ton of Cell's resurrected victims died again from drowning?

Question: why did King Kai and Bubbles stay dead, then? They're fine reviving in the middle of Snake Way or in the void where King Kai's planet was, and as far as we know, neither has died before. They presumably would have been included in the wish, right? I think it was stated that King Kai wante...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it really possible for the "base" Saiyans to be weaker than Freeza in Battle of Gods?
Replies: 47
Views: 5353

Is it really possible for the "base" Saiyans to be weaker than Freeza in Battle of Gods?

Alright. I know that I said many times before that I don't believe on the X50 multiplier for SSJ, but I've decided to use it this time. I've been doing a power level list, with all the power gaps, scaling, and everything that makes sense during the Cell and Buu sagas. But it just seems impossible fo...
by dragonball0900
Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: A ton of Cell's resurrected victims died again from drowning?
Replies: 16
Views: 2820

Re: A ton of Cell's resurrected victims died again from drowning?

The gr wrote:what about nappa when he blowed up the city because I'm pretty sure no one made a wish for that
No. They were not revived, since they focused on Frieza later on.