Kanzenshuu

This movie was being written in 2017 before Moro. So why would Toriyama take UI into account when Goku in Broly couldn't even use the form. For the same reason Gohan's Enraged SS2 form/power was being taken into account in the Boo arc even though Gohan never used it in the arc. UI is Goku's max pow...

Putting this new information together and assuming that Toriyama would not be taking into account Ultra Instinct you could probably order it like so Broly > Cell Max > Super Saiyan Blue Goku / Vegeta / Orange Piccolo > Ultimate Gohan >= Gamma 1 / 2 > Ultimate Piccolo ~ Android 17 Which to me is def...

I'm going to say that naming Gohan's form "Beast Gohan" is absolutely stupid. No matter how 'cool' it sounds, it doesn't fit Gohan's persona. It better fits Broly, who is much more primal and beastly than the home schooled intellectual that spends his days doing reports and studying. Hone...

Putting this new information together and assuming that Toriyama would not be taking into account Ultra Instinct you could probably order it like so Broly > Cell Max > Super Saiyan Blue Goku / Vegeta / Orange Piccolo > Ultimate Gohan >= Gamma 1 / 2 > Ultimate Piccolo ~ Android 17 Which to me is def...

Although saying Vegeta can’t be a candidate in U7 is wrong given Goku was offered being a God of Destruction in Battle of Gods. Goku was never offered that position in the manga's Battle of Gods arc. The only time it ever comes up is when Beerus tells Vegeta he could probably qualify in another uni...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWYEN0JUUAEv64Y?format=jpg&name=small So.....I take it that this means then that Cell Max is not above Broly then. It depends how this works. Was a complete Cell Max meant to be any stronger than an incomplete Cell Max? Or is the difference purely that a complete Cel...

Except he didn’t say candidate, he just said God of Destruction. It was both a compliment and a boost about himself, another thing common in anime. Yeah, I think I'm done here . Next time, go back and reference the thing that you're talking about before making wildly obtuse claims about dialogue th...

Hard to say with 17 since they’ve been no mention of him since the TOP if we don’t count the manga. I mean, 17 could be stronger as far as we know given the power boost they gave him after Cell ate him. Remember, 17 was stronger than Super Saiyan God in Battle of Gods. I seriously doubt 17 reaches ...

I read the text several times and I'm telling you that is an old anime cliche line. Good god, this is such an absurdly incoherent point that I'm not even sure where to begin. Beerus isn't using some fake backhanded figure of speech he heard from One Piece. He's specifically complimenting Vegeta on ...

Unless they come up with something truly ludicrous for Majin Buu or 17 and 18, Piccolo is officially the 4th strongest person on the entire planet. 5th strongest mortal in the universe. I'm so happy. Hard to say with 17 since they’ve been no mention of him since the TOP if we don’t count the manga....

People take that quote too literally since it’s an old saying. It’s basically saying ‘I’m above others in my rank’ as a brag. Like me saying you can be CEO of another company. Nah, you're misinterpreting the text. Beerus beats Vegeta, tells him it would be a long time before he gets to his level, t...

sigmasigma wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:50 pm The name of Gohans's new transformation is revealed. It is "孫悟飯ビースト", which means "Son Gohan Beast"

Direct tweet from Herms: https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1541919202360995840

So how do you think Jiren and Belmod compares to characters from the current arcs and Beerus? Well, there's a lot to unpack here. Jiren is an interesting case in that being from a different universe effectively makes him outside the purview of Granolah's wish, and he managed to force Goku out of a ...

Well it depends on who you ask. Toriyama still thinks highly of Jiren. Especially if you seen or heard about DBS superhero spoilers or read the novel. He also references Jiren and Broly to the gods. So he must think highly of them. But if we go with toyotaro, Beerus is still much stronger than Goku...

It's presented sloppily, but yes, that's the intended thrust. I don't think it has anything to do with Bardock's power-up; rather, Goku distinctly implies that his Ultra Instinct (at least the one in the Granolah arc) is nerfed to hell right now, so Sign is his strongest available form with his cur...

That and Kelfa lost to UI Sign Goku, a form that gods revere. Fusion Zamasu in the anime got his face melted by normal Blue Goku and then kicked in the head by Blue Kaioken. In comparison, Kelfa knocked Goku out of Blue Kaioken with a kick. Yup. Merged Zamasu was pretty unimpressive before he start...

Are we forgetting that Fused Zamasu was explicitly stated to have an unstable body that was literally falling apart, and was tired and exhausted after a long fight with Vegito Blue? It should also be noted that Black made the mistake of fusing while in Super Saiyan Rosé. It was stated in DBZ that t...

It interests me whether Vegeta will keep Ultra Ego for the next arc or it will be stuck in a limbo like Forced Spirit Fission, where it gets sometimes mentioned but never used again. Shame how Vegeta's training on Yardrat has no meaning to the current arc at all. Tbf, Spirit Fission was always goin...

On another topic: For those out off by the UI developments: Did you see a particular path forward with stoic Goku? He hardly talks during the action against Jiren and Moro. For me, the developments here fix that meta issue (dull Goku), while also reinforcing existing themes of the series and charac...

The movie was nothing extraordinary to me. A fun one for sure, but it was not worth all this wait. I wonder what took them so long to produce and release it. Hopefully Piccolo and Gohan (and Pan too) will play important roles alongside Goku and Vegeta in future stories, or else this story would be ...