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by Saturnine
Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: New interview comparing Vegetto and Gogeta?
Replies: 5
Views: 1633

Re: New interview comparing Vegetto and Gogeta?

Oh, it's that "evenly matched" thing. Oh well, we've had to swallow pills more bitter than that.

I'm happy they at least acknowledged that there is such a thing as the "official storyline". Stands to reason of course, but some people were still quite stubborn about this.
by Saturnine
Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which Would Be The Better Ultimate Saiyan Form? SSJ4 or PSSJB?
Replies: 100
Views: 16335

Re: Which Would Be The Better Ultimate Saiyan Form? SSJ4 or PSSJB?

Yeah, the similarity between G2 and Ssj Blue Evolved is skin-deep at best.
by Saturnine
Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: New interview comparing Vegetto and Gogeta?
Replies: 5
Views: 1633

Re: New interview comparing Vegetto and Gogeta?

There's nothing like that on Herms' Twitter it seems. Or I must have missed it.
by Saturnine
Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Broly's next form(s) / Development!
Replies: 39
Views: 6432

Re: Broly's next form(s) / Development!

What's wrong with the old SSJ4 design? The fact that the body fur isn't brown or golden, but an illogixal, random red - for one thing. Well, brown would look too weak and kinda correspond to Broly's Ikari form more, which is below his regular SSj. But golden would have not only looked great, but al...
by Saturnine
Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which Would Be The Better Ultimate Saiyan Form? SSJ4 or PSSJB?
Replies: 100
Views: 16335

Re: Which Would Be The Better Ultimate Saiyan Form? SSJ4 or PSSJB?

You make good points even if I don't agree with your opinions or your logic. Just because it doesn't follow the gold trumps black doesn't mean its not insanely powerful or cool. Ikari is NOT the 'canon' version of SSJ4, it shares a similar origin but that doesn't make it the canon equivalent. That ...
by Saturnine
Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:22 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which Would Be The Better Ultimate Saiyan Form? SSJ4 or PSSJB?
Replies: 100
Views: 16335

Re: Which Would Be The Better Ultimate Saiyan Form? SSJ4 or PSSJB?

I dunno about the Ikari being the canonical rationalization of Super Saiyan 4 and I definitely don't agree with the idea that it looks better without red fur. I agree that it looks better without the fur, because red is a random color. They should have made the fur either brown or golden in the fir...
by Saturnine
Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:23 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Broly's next form(s) / Development!
Replies: 39
Views: 6432

Re: Broly's next form(s) / Development!

What's wrong with the old SSJ4 design? The fact that the body fur isn't brown or golden, but an illogixal, random red - for one thing. Well, brown would look too weak and kinda correspond to Broly's Ikari form more, which is below his regular SSj. But golden would have not only looked great, but al...
by Saturnine
Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:39 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Base form Goku (ToP) stronger than ritual SSG Goku?
Replies: 52
Views: 8030

Re: Base form Goku (ToP) stronger than ritual SSG Goku?

There's no real convincing involved. I didn't have to convince myself, the show explicitly says it, and then we are given absolutely no reason to believe that this had changed. They only tried to axe the traditional SSJ forms in the RoF movie, and no indication of that in Super. Then they could hav...
by Saturnine
Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1985684

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Gogeta uses the term "合体" (gattai) in that line which is often used for Potara but generally means "merging." And yeah the film doesn't follow the anime continuity so ofc Frieza wouldn't know about it. Kefla was in the manga too. So the movie would have to acknowledge neither of...
by Saturnine
Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:46 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1985684

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Well, regarding this whole Superman thing, we're still in a reversal of sorts. If it were Broly origins + FUNi characterization, then Goku would have been Superman straight up. But Goku is in reality not as noble as many think him to be, so his origins - whatever they are - neither add to or detract...
by Saturnine
Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:43 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Base form Goku (ToP) stronger than ritual SSG Goku?
Replies: 52
Views: 8030

Re: Base form Goku (ToP) stronger than ritual SSG Goku?

Yeah, just because you're able to convince yourself that the God power was absorbed and SSj Goku is now God level with no inconsistencies ever being present, doesn't mean there are no inconsistencies. It's quite clear there are quite many, due to how hastily the creators decided to go back on axing ...
by Saturnine
Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Very happy to see Toyotaro keeping the official timeline and ages consistent for once!
Replies: 10
Views: 2102

Re: Very happy to see Toyotaro keeping the official timeline and ages consistent for once.

You seem awully fixated on this one thing. "Losing all hope" just because Toriyama can't remember some dates? Really, there's more to the series than that.
by Saturnine
Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:21 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1985684

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Personally I never really cared for Bardock much in the first place, not my fav char or anything. So frankly, I didn't really mind the change particularly. It's all up to your preference, really.
by Saturnine
Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1985684

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

And frankly I'm happier he's no longer explicitly called that in-universe. Keep in mind that Goku's SSj form is already "legendary" in canon. I'd be happier if they went with a mutation explanation, and noticed how Broly is similar to Kale. Kale's lore is that she's also a Legendary Saiya...
by Saturnine
Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:32 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14456
Views: 1985684

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

The new Broly was born with an abnormally huge power level just like the old Broly. So to say it’s for “plot reasons” doesn’t really just apply to the new Broly at all. I say purely for plot reasons because the new Broly has no built-in lore for why he's so strong. He goes from being weak as shit t...
by Saturnine
Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Broly's next form(s) / Development!
Replies: 39
Views: 6432

Re: Broly's next form(s) / Development!

Well, Kale has already shown the next logical step he needs to take before evolving further.
by Saturnine
Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Full Power Super Saiyan 3...
Replies: 32
Views: 5293

Re: Full Power Super Saiyan 3...

Ssj4 is compared to SsjB because both were the final forms of their respective series. But when SSj God came into the picture, it was supposed to bring the fighter into the realm way beyond Fusion. So it stands to reason that the multi would be bigger than that of SSj4.
by Saturnine
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Base form Goku (ToP) stronger than ritual SSG Goku?
Replies: 52
Views: 8030

Re: Base form Goku (ToP) stronger than ritual SSG Goku?

The only reason people deny Base Goku & Vegeta being that strong is because they don't like it (despite nothing contradicting it), or because they want Buu arc level and GT characters to still be relevant to Super powerscaling wise. You're just assuming that. There's nothing not to like about G...
by Saturnine
Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:15 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Which Would Be The Better Ultimate Saiyan Form? SSJ4 or PSSJB?
Replies: 100
Views: 16335

Re: Which Would Be The Better Ultimate Saiyan Form? SSJ4 or PSSJB?

I'm definitely a bigger fan of Broly's "Wrathful" form as a combination of base and Oozaru, simply because SSj4's red fur was awkward IMO. Nakatsuru kinda wrote himself into a corner with it - since if the fur were brown, the form wouldn't have looked powerful enough. I wouldn't have minde...
by Saturnine
Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Base form Goku (ToP) stronger than ritual SSG Goku?
Replies: 52
Views: 8030

Re: Base form Goku (ToP) stronger than ritual SSG Goku?

As I said many times before, personally I don't think base Goku was ssj God Goku divided by 50. If Ssj God power can be absorbed into base once, why couldn't it be absorbed an unlimited number of times, creating a perpetual cycle of powerups? Bringing back the Ssj God form in the anime pretty much s...