Kanzenshuu

Just saw the Roshi vs Jiren scans and I honestly feel sick. What on earth is Toyo thinking!? Just...how? I don't care how much Jiren is holding back(assuming he is), that's just not possibe

Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta vs ROF Base Vegeta Manga Zamasu vs Anime Zamasu 1. Luffy wins. 4th gear Luffy could make it in the 23th tenkaiichi 2. Kenshiro wins. He is Saibamen level 3. Ichigo wins. He is Saiyan Saga Vegeta level (no Oozaru) at his peak 4. Naruto wins. Saiyan saga Goku would need at least K...

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:It's stated by Vegeta or Kaioshin that Goku didn't have the power to throw it properly because he was too tired. Once he was healed he had the power to fire it properly as a SSJ.

But this shouldn't have made a differece as Buu's strenght>Goku's full strength (outside of SSJ3)

Goku went SSJ when he recovered his Ki and that was enough to overpower Buu. What I don't understand is how this worked. Kid Buu was way stronger than Goku's SSJ2 and SSJ forms and should have been able to take control of the skirmish

How is Dragonball Heroes going to affect power scalling?

Curious. What is everyone's opinions on Seththeprogrammer and his DBZ power scaling?

Future Trunks's timeline was created by Cell's time travel. Thing is, the Trunks of Cell's timeline (T3) traveled to the past, age 764, creating the unseen timeline (T4). There he killed T4 Frieza and T4 King Cold, warned T4 Goku about the cyborgs and gave him the heart medicine. Then, he returned ...

Yes. Frieza in his 4th Form was getting smacked around by Base Goku and was said to be stronger than a rusty Gohan. I don't see any reason why a hypothetical SSJ3 Vegito couldn't beat Frieza's weaker forms. They are screwed if he starts Golden though

SSJ Vegito(Buu Saga) vs Base U6 Saiyans(TOP)

SSJ2 Kalfa vs Initial UIO Goku

How does Pre-fusion Piccolo compare to the base saiyans?(Android saga Pre-ROSAT)

Baby Vegeta 2 vs Super 17
Piccolo(Android arc) vs Base Goku & Base Vegeta (Andriod Arc PreROSAT)

Looking back at the manga, I think we can all agree that there were several power scaling issues. If you could go back and edit Toriyama's script to fix these issues or even make certain parts less/more ambiguous or clear, what changes would you make? You are only allowed to revise the dialogue. Thi...

dbgtFO wrote:

AvatarReiko wrote:Is Royal Blue stronger than KKx20?

It should be, at least after Vegeta gets his family boost against Toppo, because prior to that point he wasn't doing any differently than KKx20 against Jiren.

So Royal Blue>KKx20>MSSJB(Manga)>SSJB?

Is Royal Blue stronger than KKx20?

Zen-Oh vs Super Shenron
BKKx20 Goku vs ASSJB Vegeta

So Jiren pulled a Natsu there and suddenly got stronger and nakama boost when Toppo made his nakama speach.

EDIT: Now that both shows are finished. Which one had better/more consistent power scaling? GT or Super

How big is the difference in power between tired SSJB/SSJG Goku and full strength SSJB/SSJG? Enough of difference that it would have made a difference against Kafla. For instance would Base Kafla still stomp SSJG

1.) What if Goku got to the battlefield on time during the saiyan arc?
2.) What if the Z-warriors went with Bulma's idea and use the Dragon Balls to find Gero's lab?
3.) What if Piccolo killed Dr Gero before Bulma arrived in her jet?