Kanzenshuu

Something else I like about Kaioken/Blue over Complete SSB is the fact that it truly expands the SSB form, rather than try to say that the form itself has problems to be addressed; in-universe, that is. How does the Kaioken expand SSB? It has nothing to do with the use of Blue, it was a call-back m...

Yes but they are still all cliche's. One showcased friendship differently than the other, was still standard. Z used friends to grow stronger as a means of pushing each other as well as sacrificing them for power ups [Goku/Kuririn]. Same with Super but Super just took it to another level with them ...

To cut in, there is a confirmation fallacy i see a lot that I wish would get cleared up. That just because a character says a villain "will destroy the Universe", it does not instantly confirm them to be universal busting or that they can one-shot the universe. Its headcanon logic that pe...

Honestly the issue with it being a midquel is that nothing in the setting was used for the requirement. If everyone was considering retiring anyway then why bother? Most of the other characters didn't do anything significant after ROF. Them using the timeframe where the characters were young was jus...

To cut in, there is a confirmation fallacy i see a lot that I wish would get cleared up. That just because a character says a villain "will destroy the Universe", it does not instantly confirm them to be universal busting or that they can one-shot the universe. Its headcanon logic that pee...

For me, anyways, Complete SSB puts Resurrection of F in a weird place, as Golden Freeza was the one to possess the whole "Ki leaking" problem that ultimately culminated in his defeat. This is the only issue I have with Toyotaro's development of Super Saiyan Blue. If it has such a power dr...

I do agree that the manga in its start did not do well with presenting the new antagonists as very threatening which is a loss, unlike the anime that did present Beerus, Hit, Goku Black better, but the manga going off that issue did present Cabba, and Kale as much more competent for their own myster...

Funny how some people always compare Super with GT because they think Z was a masterpiece or because they are blind of nostalgia Maybe because is a parallel continuation, that people claimed would overwrite GT as the fandom considered it to be unwatchable, but then Super comes out to be just as fla...

The villians in Z were still evil solely for the sake of being evil. Buu is the only one that fits this claim. Not all villains need to be corrupted to justify them being evil. Maybe Zamasu resonates with people because he has a very fanfic styled origin. The villains in Z were all coming off diffe...

I don't think it would have been as interesting if his editors weren't so strict on their preferences. I mean the Android arc in my opinion was improved because of that back and forth. No. 19 & 20 being the main villains of an arc might have been interesting but I don't see what they could have ...

Yes but they are still all cliche's. One showcased friendship differently than the other, was still standard. Actually how the theme is differently presented does matter. How much a meta-theme controls the plot or character strength can determine if its a cliche when a trope is played straight and ...

I preferred MSSB because they were focusing on the form itself, and the concept of keeping their inside their bodies to then enhance their durability, and physical attacks was a good direction because they were trying to match Beerus' fighting style and why he can be as strong as he is while he can ...

If you think I think Super is better than Z you are mistaken. Also, it isn't an opinion that DB, DBZ and Super's plot lines are vanilla. The majority are savior arcs with no deep meaning other than the cliche shounene friends, strength, pushing limits etc that we always seen. The only thing Super d...

DB and DBZ plots were simple just like Supers simple Shounen tropes. This is why their plots are overshadowed by the fighting and flash. No, thats an opinion from the side of the fandom who only care about fights because as kids all they understood were the fights and their nostalgia has their brai...

DB and DBZ has better fights, tension, ferocity sound effects than Super. This is really all that matters in this battle story. No. Because then we'd get fighters just endlessly fighting for the sake of it with the plot going no where and a forced ending of "friendship" beat the enemy tha...

He successfully gathered the Super Dragon Balls, massive planet-sized orbs scattered across Universe 6 and Universe 7 He did that before he fought the characters, that is just setting up his power. Its no different than with Freeza training for 4 months to get golden. It was written in as a pretens...

You're comparing a 30 years old villain to a 2 years old villain. Of course Frieza is more popular and iconic than Zamasu. That is not Frieza being a better character than Zamasu, that's just Frieza having had more time to leave his mark on the franchise. No. Freeza has years but Zamasu had quick p...

I have quite a lot of irks. >No plot, No story, No real stakes held. >Writers wouldn't let anyone die in battle. >The forced wish for everyone to be brought back, and this fake moral virtue Zeno suddenly had. >Pacing being extremely slow and arc being too long (A tournament with no villain was borin...

>The Insert Song for UI omen. >The Opening Theme & Animation (Easily best of Super) >The Ultra Instinct Omen fight (Not the White haired form), >Kale & Caulifla (Just their real depiction of teamwork & sincere dynamics, outside the scaling debates) >Kale's character growth & her mast...

there you have some training moments Right. I did praise that. I was thinking of the anime when I wrote that. I was comparing that which I preferred over the lack there of in the anime with the other user, though I might have slipped off the context of this thread being about the manga itself. Poss...