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by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So is UE Vegeta meant to be much weaker than UI Goku? Vegeta seems to peak at True UI level back in Cereal (If even that), but seems weird for Vegeta to brag about beating Goku in their latest sparring when UI Goku would run circles around him. I remember a video with Toyotaro saying Goku and Vegeta...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The dispute is; if Moro didn't want Vegeta to touch him with Spirit Fission because he would of caused damage to make the technique work against Moro. Then how in the world is Moro 7-3 going to tag and damage a current fusion dance or Patora merge with Goku and Vegeta? Thoughts? Moro could probably...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That sounds very dumb, but I get it. Basically:

Silver UI
~ Full power: 100
~ Weakened: 50

UI Sign
~ Normally: 25
~ True: 75
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:57 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20709

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

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by GreatSaiyaman123
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Wait so what's the point of True UI then? And don't tell me "It's weaker but better suited for combat" because Goku is in a combat right now.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 161
Views: 20709

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

More Fat Gotenks. You're a true comedy genius, Akira.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Hopefully Goku using Silver UI means the Granolah Saga was erased from existence.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's the only appropriate stance. What happens to fictional characters is decided by the whims of authorial intent alone. Ultimate Gohan has never been a static power boost, and there is no such thing as "pre UE" Beerus. Static boost or not, Gohan hasn't done any training but he's suddenl...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what age is Goku REALLY?
Replies: 12
Views: 858

Re: So what age is Goku REALLY?

Isn't the change rather to the date of Planet Vegeta's destruction, instead of to Goku's birth year? Goku arrives on Earth "around 10 years" before the events of Dragon Ball, according to the Jaco manga, and Dragon Ball begins in Age 749. So Goku is still born around Age 737, and is aroun...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't think asking "What are the writers thinking" is a good stance because they're not even thinking at all. Last time we saw Ultimate Gohan he was leagues behind Blue Goku but now he's "on par". Watching DBSB you'd think it was just Broly >= Beerus, but in the manga it's actu...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:55 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Since we were talking about tier lists, this is how I view things currently. Blue Fusions Broly Beerus Freeza ~ Gohan Cell Max ~ Gas Goku ~ Vegeta ~ Piccolo Granolah Moro Jiren Gammas Merged Zamasu Kefla Android 17 Beerus has gotten stronger since the ToP. Broly hasn't since he just started his trai...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1589152

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Fight sequences in the movies are written by the animators, not Toriyama. I do get the feeling that Toriyama underestimated the cast in RoF, but we know that's now how it goes anyway. Kuririn being a coward is nowhere near as direct as the 1.3 million line, which everybody knows is bull. What's next...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Anyone else have the feeling that Toriyama didn't like the Multiverse & Gods concepts?
Replies: 8
Views: 1095

Re: Anyone else have the feeling that Toriyama didn't like the Multiverse & Gods concepts?

U6, Zamasu and ToP all came from his head, they were his ideas and Toyotaro and Toei just polished them. RoF feels like a weird stopgag between BoG (Introducing multiverse) and Super (Exploring multiverse), but he was all in with it from 2015 to 2018. Zamasu and ToP were pretty high stakes (One had ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3404837

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Wait, for real? Awesome, I always wondered how strong Future Vegeta was. Yeah. Even Vegeta, whose ability was on par with Goku, is defeated by the artificial humans! It's weird though because in the OVA Gohan thinks he can beat the androids both times, but I guess he just didn't know how strong Veg...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I wouldn't discard something like that, though, and I won't lie, I'd like to see where the story goes if the new big bad is no longer unreachable by the first episode, if they take him to fight Freeza, if a new threat arises or how the story unfolds after the hierarchy is disputed so soon. To be fa...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3404837

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Future Krillin vs Goku [Can only use default Kaioken; Ginyu arc]. Future Piccolo vs Goku [Can only use default Kaioken; Mecha arc]. Future Vegeta [Super Saiyan] vs Goku [Super Saiyan; Mecha arc]. Goku, but it's close until he turns on KK. On Namek Kuririn was 75k and rising, so I can see him being ...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37469
Views: 3404837

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

If Gotenks were so strong, Vegeta wouldn't think Beerus one shotting Goku wouldn't be the end of the world.

Beerus says SSJ(2?) Vegeta (Pre rage) is a good fighter but thinks nothing of SSJ Gotenks, so I think skill definitely covers this gap somehow.
by GreatSaiyaman123
Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39826
Views: 3836626

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Broly just regained his crown with the minimal training he's done. What's the big deal? He went from from base level to Blue fusion in one fight, why can't he get a couple times stronger with actual training? In hindsight, Toyotaro probably "ignored" Uchida because he just slipped a spoile...
by GreatSaiyaman123
Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:53 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12581
Views: 1589152

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Come to think of it, Goku doesn't even have to be stronger than Gotenks. Not only is fusion always left out of comparisons, but Gotenks is the most reliable character ever. He's completely off the table in RoF despite being the strongest fighter on Earth. The movie even avoids showing SSJ3 Gotenks.....
by GreatSaiyaman123
Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42696
Views: 5588379

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Hence why I don't think we're ever getting that direct tangle with Black Freeza either... Maybe. I think this one is just a matter of whether Toriyama and co. are even interested in such a story. Daima gives me the impression AT is bored with Super, and I feel Manga Super Hero is just buying time w...