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- Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:04 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: How would the Z half of the series been different without the interference of Toriyama's editor?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2735
Re: How would the Z half of the series been different without the interference of Toriyama's editor?
It would be much worse and more random than it is. Toriyama is a creative mangaka but as far as writing goes (outside of improvising on the spot)he is sloppy most of the time(to put it very very nicely),the Buu saga is a an example of little interference and i think stands as a good example as to wh...
- Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:53 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Why was Ultimate Gohan so popular?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3950
Re: Why was Ultimate Gohan so popular?
Why do people like Cell Games Gohan despite being so out of character? Well he at least did have a huge impact and was the one to finish off the main villain in an epic way. He dismantles the Cell Jr's like they were nothing, overwhelmed Cell and then killed him. He then did something pretty simila...
- Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:15 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Why was Ultimate Gohan so popular?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3950
Re: Why was Ultimate Gohan so popular?
Why do people like Cell Games Gohan despite being so out of character? Because he dominated the villain,with the reason why highlighting Gohan's potential which is his gimmick and what most of Gohan's fan only seem to care about. So same case for Ultimate,it also remembered 'fondly' as well because ...
- Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:18 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Goku was out of character in the exhibition matches
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1640
Re: Goku was out of character in the exhibition matches
I giggled. Reminds me of people thinking Goku was about to heal Jiren in 130 before UI expired. You see he was about to heal Jiren but Ul expired before he could,such a shame. My wife left me for the pool boy. We are going to court next week. I intend to seek full custody of our dog. This is betwee...
- Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:25 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42696
- Views: 5688425
Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
As I mentioned, Hit is not weak. You felt he was underwhelming as an antagonist. A character being factually weak and feeling underwhelming are two completely different things. Also, there is nothing suggesting that Vegeta was weaker than Goku in any way. From all observable and stated information,...
- Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:21 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42696
- Views: 5688425
Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Of course, I'm fairly certain that you have no real intention of discussing this subject in good faith and your question was meant to be a snarky and rhetorical retort. Still, I have to ask, did Super Saiyan 2 Gohan defeating Perfect Cell mean Perfect Cell was a weakling? Did Goku saying he could'v...
- Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:27 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42696
- Views: 5688425
Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
This. So very much this. I've made the same case for Hit's performance in the manga here once before. I'm still irritated by this community "consensus" that Hit was a "weakling" or "fodder" in the manga during the Universe 6 tournament. As far as I can tell, it appears...
- Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:48 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Goku was out of character in the exhibition matches
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1640
Goku was out of character in the exhibition matches
As far as flanderization of Goku nothing even comes close to this moment. https://i.imgur.com/3ZtPS66.png Here you see Goku holding a bag full of senzus( in a fight where items are being allowed)while Gohan is fighting someone who is trying to kill him yet Goku does not even give(or even at the leas...
- Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:53 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
- Replies: 954
- Views: 117798
Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
But it is you who are assuming that Hitto was made weak to benefit Vegeta in some way. This makes no sense. Making Hitto be weaker Goku SSB in power, Toyotaro automatically was also making him be weaker than Vegeta. It was not something meant to benefit any particular character as you are saying, a...
- Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:43 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: What about Super disservice with characters like Goten, Trunks and Yamcha?
- Replies: 66
- Views: 10620
Re: What about Super disservice with characters like Goten, Trunks and Yamcha?
I like Goten, but I'd be weary of him and Trunks getting more spotlight because that might impede on Gohan getting more spotlight. But you said Gohan sucks anyways,why would you care about a character that sucks so much to get more spotlight? You should be glad if anything since that mean Gohan cou...
- Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:40 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
- Replies: 954
- Views: 117798
Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
2 - What..? How does him doing something different with a character compared to the anime not prove anything..? I think you need to really read my words more carefully since you keep misunderstanding them,i was talking about Toyotaro in general and not in comparrison to the anime. Vegeta being said...
- Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:33 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
- Replies: 954
- Views: 117798
Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Well , it’s clear that you don’t like vegeta and toyotaro. I like Vegeta,not Toyotaro's through. If you don’t like vegetas role in super , don’t personalize it in toyotaro ,because he’s not the first , neither the second that choose his performance in super Where did this all come from?I just said ...
- Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:09 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
- Replies: 954
- Views: 117798
Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
But it's his characters to mess with. Let the writer do what he wants with these characters. I felt tension because they were getting eliminated pretty quickly as if the Universe 7 was really in danger. It was very unexpected imo, thinking at first they'd be able to hold their own like in the anime...
- Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:13 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
- Replies: 954
- Views: 117798
Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
That's your opinion. I rather have them as tool who serve a narrative purpose than giving them moments because fans think they deserve it, which might or might not affect negativity the structure of an arc. If it doesn't better for everyone, something like that rarely happens. I agree with your sec...
- Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:22 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39973
- Views: 3927345
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Yeah, don't ask me to find it now but one of the writers for the show on Twitter said that Roshi was powered up by whatever it was that was possessing him. So normally he probably is weaker than Tien. That was Toshio but some things to note: 1)Toshio did not write this episode 2)We see in the Top t...
- Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:51 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: So...is there a REAL reason as to why Vegeta doesn't have SSJ3 or SSG in the Anime?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 8901
Re: So...is there a REAL reason as to why Vegeta doesn't have SSJ3 or SSG in the Anime?
In the anime it seems he just didn't, or never bothered after SSB. Wouldn't he automatically get the red weaker form if he has the stronger blue one ? If you have 100$ then you also have 90$. Nope,you need to have ssj1 to get ssjb but you thats not the case for ssjg. Its closer to that you don't ne...
- Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:15 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
- Replies: 14626
- Views: 1542697
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
What examples outside of the increased comedy in the Buu arc has characters acting out of character outside of the situation they're in. Its much worse for characters to act stupid while "in-character" to the point of obliviousness from flanderization. Whats where Super's issues came in. ...
- Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:52 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
- Replies: 14626
- Views: 1542697
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Sounds like an exaggeration in comparison. Full of inconsistencies and retcons? Not to Super's standards equally. The plot may have been more situational than the former but it made enough sense for a clear transition. Goku comes back for a day, they enter the tournament for a fun reunion. they set...
- Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:18 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
- Replies: 14626
- Views: 1542697
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
I really can't see how anyone could put any arc in Super above Z. Even if people disliked the Buu arc, it still fit the needed structural flow that was consistent with the Z arcs while most of Super's felt rushed, to artificial/pre-planned for marketing's sake in its endings. I think its pretty abs...
- Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:03 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: I'm happy that the last 3 fighters were not all saiyans
- Replies: 28
- Views: 4555
Re: I'm happy that the last 3 fighters were not all saiyans
It was quite annoying to see Piccolo be turned into a babysitter. They should just write him off the show now. It's much better at this point. Humiliated by a bug, destroyed by chopsticks, one shotted by Tagoma, fodder in the U6 arc, background for Gohan, etc. Have him go to Namek and become its pr...