Kanzenshuu

Similarly to anyone associated with Goku, it would be a "what the hell Goku, do you know what this means?" 5 mins later, "Oh well, you can always save us Goku".
If not, it's going to be more of a meh reaction..

Nah, Ultimate Goku just doesn't feel right imo, he can keep his transformations, he looks better that way.

Would like Piccolo, Vegeta and Gohan to do well and Roshi and Tien to do as expected, not really invested in them as much.

So what is everyone's current full list of powerlevels? Current SSB Tier: 1. Goku 2. Vegeta - I still feel like his SSB is stronger, but Kaioken x10 is just overkill. 2nd Tier (no particular order)- still God Tier but more SSG to ROF SSB : 17 / Gohan / Frieza - unknown if Frieza trained on his stam...

Cetra wrote:

TheGreatSaiyaman wrote:

Cetra wrote:
A move from vol. 16.

I'm not too familiar, what is it volume 16 of? is it like a guide?

Dragon Ball vol. 16. The manga, vol. 16. Piccolo VS Goku.

Oh thanks, I'm not really a manga reader, but that's cool to know.

Cetra wrote:

TheGreatSaiyaman wrote: and what was Piccolo's attack?

A move from vol. 16.

I'm not too familiar, what is it volume 16 of? is it like a guide?

I felt so bad for Tien, Piccolo was over there powering up that blast and Gohan was just on defence and attack like not today, even with the Kikoho..which reminds me, are those one finger ki blasts new from Gohan and what was Piccolo's attack?

Gohan was even or winning most of the fight until SSBKK (not sure what level if x1 or x10), he exceeded SS2 Goku and even got a shot in on SSB :o! Vegetal was smiling like 'Gohan...powered-up...nicee'. I would place Gohan at a potential low SSB or more appropriate around SS3 Goku level (potentially)...

I love the 'my boy' threads, thanks

This sucks for Buu, so many people including myself wanted to see him in the the T of P...

Ultimate Gohan vs Goku next week, what a fight that's going to be. Having been stronger than all SS3 characters in Z, his next logical wall is the SSG / SSB level, which is probably where I would place him after episode 90 in the tournament, unless Goku teaches him something or he gets it out of him...

I want him to get stronger, but have his own form. I don't think we need a third SSBlue character, hahaha. I'm torn because I want Gohan to have a unique form that is all his own, but I want SSRage to be explained and it would be great if Gohan got it so we could learn about it. ... Ugggghhhhh. If ...

EP 90 sounds good. I'm not a great Tien fan, but you never know, he might surprise me in 89. These arguments blew up like crazy; especially the 17 v Gohan and the coherence ones. Like guys, chill.

So, Ultimate Gohan >>> SS2 Gohan = Piccolo > SS Gohan > Base Gohan and Gohan's meant to somewhat relative to Buu in his base, jeez Piccolo got a massive boost.. When was Gohan made comparable or relative to Majin Boo in his base form? My apologies, I meant Buu Saga levels, I'm tired :lol:

Freeza9000 wrote:

TheGreatSaiyaman wrote:

RafaelLeon wrote:
Transformations have controlled the weather since Goku's debut as a Super Saiyan.

But can Goku stop the rain and wind whilst transforming?

Buy hey, nobody complained about how Cell's ascension to his perfect form caused massive shitstorms on Earth.

That's true, you guys win

RafaelLeon wrote:

TheGreatSaiyaman wrote:So Ultimate is officially a transformation which increases Gohan's strength and apparently controls the weather too

Transformations have controlled the weather since Goku's debut as a Super Saiyan.

But can Goku stop the rain and wind whilst transforming?

So Ultimate is officially a transformation which increases Gohan's strength and apparently controls the weather too
So, Ultimate Gohan >>> SS2 Gohan = Piccolo > SS Gohan > Base Gohan and Gohan's meant to somewhat relative to Buu in his base, jeez Piccolo got a massive boost..

I think it is safe to say my boy Gohan will be redeemed in this arc

SS2 Gohan, what what! And Mystic Gohan, oh my gosh, episode 88 is about to be so good...but I feel a Gohan beatdown.....I mean lesson from Piccolo is needed

If Piccolo is stronger than SS Gohan, I can't even... in ROF, Base Gohan was stronger than him and in the U6 arc, Piccolo made improvements thanks to Gohan, who should have gotten stronger again after having been initially stronger. So for Piccolo to be stronger now, is just a bit odd, even if they ...